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scoobydoo
13th July 2007, 12:58
Thanks lads :thumbs

marky72
13th July 2007, 13:33
i get 1 running for profit and 7 layem selections

mathare
13th July 2007, 13:35
i get 1 running for profit and 7 layem selectionsWhat races do you have the 7 Lay'ems in?

marky72
13th July 2007, 13:39
ascot 3.35x1
hamilton 6.50x2
8.20x2
9.20x1
newmarket 4.20x1
ive just checked again and i got 7 again

alright
13th July 2007, 13:49
Sorry, my mistake. I get 2 as well with MJ

mathare
13th July 2007, 13:52
newmarket 4.20x1
I agree with the rest but I don't have this one. Ah, hang on. You sneaky RP :censored: so-and-so's. I see what they've done and I now agree with this one.

hudsonmat
13th July 2007, 15:45
Just 2 MJ on the quicks for me.

matt

scoobydoo
14th July 2007, 12:19
Anymore bids on 3 for Running for Profit?

mathare
14th July 2007, 13:04
Anymore bids on 3 for Running for Profit?:thumbs I get three too

marky72
14th July 2007, 13:10
yes me 2

Mattw07
14th July 2007, 13:25
As usual i can only find 2!
where the other one hiding please?

Chest 15:00
Hami 19:50

mathare
14th July 2007, 13:27
As usual i can only find 2!
where the other one hiding please?

Chest 15:00
Hami 19:50Have a look at the 2.25 Chester...

Mattw07
14th July 2007, 13:30
:headbange

Fooled again!

Cheers Mat.:thumbs

scoobydoo
14th July 2007, 13:31
Have a look at the 2.25 Chester...

Yes its the one we got caught out on the other day until Jonah put us right...:) I must have done it quite often I think! :ermmm

peza2605
14th July 2007, 13:38
if its any consolation scoobs, i missed it too again like a pillock, till i saw this thread.i must pay more attention:headbange

scoobydoo
15th July 2007, 23:57
I must have missed a few peza :doh

16th July I get

2 Jumping for Profit
1 Running for Profit

Anybody confirm please?:)

Ada
16th July 2007, 01:20
Scooby,

Yep, after double checking......I agree with you on those.

Nearly missed 1 of the JFP's (usual mistake) :splapme

Ada.

scoobydoo
16th July 2007, 03:08
Thanks Ada. :thumbs

alright
19th July 2007, 09:45
M Johnston gives me only 1 qualifier for today 19/07. Is that right? Thank you

mathare
19th July 2007, 10:15
M Johnston gives me only 1 qualifier for today 19/07. Is that right? Thank youYup

Win2Win
19th July 2007, 17:47
OOOoooooooo :D

Mattw07
19th July 2007, 17:49
Just seen the SP, i got 11.5 Gutted and happy!

Win2Win
19th July 2007, 18:09
Problem with that system lately has been the weather, as the Johnston horses this time of year are all for fast ground. This should have a dug it out of a hole. :)

I got 22.0

alright
19th July 2007, 19:06
Good for you, Keith and Mattw07! :thumbs
How could you manage such high odds, Keith? I only got 9.5 placing the bet in the morning...:splapme
Anyway it was enough to take the bank back to positive.
Any improvement in the weather forecast? Ok ok, don't tell me: I can imagine myself...:mover
Just think that here in Italy the heat is melting the stones... :laugh

Win2Win
19th July 2007, 19:36
The odds drifted on Betfair, it was 18/1 SP, it did hit 25.0

scoobydoo
20th July 2007, 00:39
Anyone get any for Run for Profit for tomorrow???

mathare
20th July 2007, 10:00
Anyone get any for Run for Profit for tomorrow???Nope, nothing on that one for Friday

scoobydoo
20th July 2007, 12:14
Thanks mat.

peza2605
20th July 2007, 13:11
i got one in the RFP.:doh

mathare
20th July 2007, 13:12
i got one in the RFP.:dohWhich race?

peza2605
20th July 2007, 13:16
im just confusing myself again , just checked for the THIRD time and found out its none................sorry

gonna start doing these the night before , not on the day after a 12-13 hour shift !

scoobydoo
21st July 2007, 13:07
2 for Running for Profit today??:doh

marky72
21st July 2007, 13:08
i make it 1 in the 7.00 lingfield

scoobydoo
21st July 2007, 13:10
Thanks Marky....youre right....didnt look properly at other one I had! :doh:thumbs

peza2605
21st July 2007, 13:21
thank god for this thread! the one i thought qualified yesterday id already placed a bet on, i forgot to lay it off and it WON:wiggle:

marky72
21st July 2007, 20:54
roll on the nh season having a nightmare at the moment with the going and other things:yikes:

Win2Win
21st July 2007, 21:59
...terrible :ermmm ......only a 22/1 Quickfire winner :mad:

scoobydoo
23rd July 2007, 13:33
1 for running for profit today?

mathare
23rd July 2007, 13:37
1 for running for profit today?:thumbs

scoobydoo
23rd July 2007, 13:54
Vielen Dank Mat! :)

marky72
23rd July 2007, 14:21
yes same here mate

mathare
24th July 2007, 13:39
1 Running for Profit today Scoobs :wink

scoobydoo
24th July 2007, 13:46
I get one yes Mat...:thumbs Are you doing it with your software now? If you are, that makes you 100 times more reliable than me!!:doh:wink

mathare
24th July 2007, 13:57
I get one yes Mat...:thumbs Are you doing it with your software now? If you are, that makes you 100 times more reliable than me!!:doh:winkI have been doing it with various versions of my software for a couple of months now to make sure it all works alright before the masses get hold of it.

scoobydoo
24th July 2007, 14:00
I have been doing it with various versions of my software for a couple of months now to make sure it all works alright before the masses get hold of it.

Great stuff! :party:REDanceda:REDanceda:irish::wiggle::D

mathare
27th July 2007, 10:24
I get 3 Running For Profit today Mr 'Doo.

And 1 x CD Lays, 10 x Lay'em, 1 x LTO3, 1 x Mark Johnston, 2 x Michael Stoute and 1 x Six Plus Loser if anyone is interested.

Win2Win
27th July 2007, 10:37
:yikes: Busy day

scoobydoo
27th July 2007, 12:19
I get 3 Running For Profit today Mr 'Doo.

And 1 x CD Lays, 10 x Lay'em, 1 x LTO3, 1 x Mark Johnston, 2 x Michael Stoute and 1 x Six Plus Loser if anyone is interested.

I get the 3 RFP yes Mat. :thumbs

marky72
27th July 2007, 13:03
yes i get 3 rfp but i get 11 layem but 1 of the layems is at chepstow which will probably be heavy so there probably will be ten mathare

mathare
27th July 2007, 13:15
RP says heavy for Chepstow anyway

Mattw07
27th July 2007, 13:48
I get 3 Running For Profit today Mr 'Doo.

And 1 x CD Lays, 10 x Lay'em, 1 x LTO3, 1 x Mark Johnston, 2 x Michael Stoute and 1 x Six Plus Loser if anyone is interested.

Exactly what ive got, must be a 1st!

Win2Win
28th July 2007, 11:08
Which one of the ebooks are folk doing best at?

mathare
28th July 2007, 13:38
Which one of the ebooks are folk doing best at?I have bundled my Running for Profit into my flat combo bank and Jumping For Profit in the NH combo bank so I can't easily tell how they are doing. But in terms of the quickfire e-books I am doing better on the NH than the flat

mathare
28th July 2007, 13:43
For Saturday 28th I get:
5 x CD Lay, 5 x Lay'em, 3 x Mark Johnston Tracks, 3 x Michael Stoute, 2 x Running for Profit and 1 x Six Plus Loser

jonahjones
28th July 2007, 13:43
Which one of the ebooks are folk doing best at?

Flat Lay'em Keith.

mathare
28th July 2007, 13:44
Flat Lay'em Keith.I forgot about that and the NHPM e-book but I agree, Lay'em is best for me too

Mattw07
28th July 2007, 14:06
Run4profit and NH Wins are best for me. :)

scoobydoo
28th July 2007, 14:31
Which one of the ebooks are folk doing best at?

Run for Profit doing pretty well Keith for me....seems to have regular winners.

I have 2 Run for Profit today.:)

jonahjones
28th July 2007, 14:41
I have 2 Run for Profit today.:)

Likewise Scoob. :)

jonahjones
28th July 2007, 14:44
I forgot about that and the NHPM e-book but I agree, Lay'em is best for me too

Mat, started these yet again on May 3rd and bank almost doubled at highest point a couple of weeks ago. Still over 50% mark but will do exact figures later.

marky72
28th July 2007, 14:53
i started all four e-book systems last october all with £300 banks which now stands at £1800 combined:wiggle:

Win2Win
28th July 2007, 16:21
I really need to put the price up :)

jonahjones
28th July 2007, 16:36
I really need to put the price up :)

It's up. Just look right at the bottom of this page. :)

http://www.horseracingbettingsystems.co.uk/horse-racing-system-running.html

mathare
28th July 2007, 16:42
It's up. Just look right at the bottom of this page. :)

http://www.horseracingbettingsystems.co.uk/horse-racing-system-running.htmlIt's been £25 all along hasn't it?

Win2Win
28th July 2007, 16:57
Yes.

jonahjones
28th July 2007, 17:03
It's been £25 all along hasn't it?


Yes.

I meant up as in displayed.

mathare
28th July 2007, 17:03
Then I assume it's just crossed wires and "put the price up" meaning increase the price being misinterpreted as meaning publishing the price on the website.

mathare
28th July 2007, 17:03
I meant up as in displayed.See, as I said

marky72
28th July 2007, 23:45
keith how much profit have you made with the e-books

paul183195
28th July 2007, 23:52
keith how much profit have you made with the e-books:laugh and also tell me everything else that is none of my business :laugh

scoobydoo
29th July 2007, 01:20
I get 3 for Sunday for running for profit??:doh

Ada
29th July 2007, 01:32
Scooby,

Yep, I go with that......2 at Carlisle & 1 at Pontefract.

Good luck

Ada.

scoobydoo
29th July 2007, 01:37
Thanks Ada, exactly what I get. :thumbs

Win2Win
29th July 2007, 09:50
:laugh and also tell me everything else that is none of my business :laugh

Correct :thumbs

Obviously they are all in profit long term with me otherwise I would not sell them.

Didn't you pack the Layem in Marky a few months ago as it had a few bad weeks? It's been flying since. :)

alexpro7
29th July 2007, 10:10
I am thinking of running some of these systems . Wondered how long it takes to find qualifiers and what time of day to do it?
I am due to start a new job (not been betting long enough to give up yet!) and need to fit it in around this.

scoobydoo
29th July 2007, 10:32
Running for Profit and Jumping for Profit dont take that long to find at all and can be done the night before racing on Racing Post....take about 5 mins to go through an average days card.:thumbs

alexpro7
29th July 2007, 10:37
Cheers Scooby. That sounds pretty easy and i like easy.

marky72
29th July 2007, 10:46
yes keith i did finish the layem but started again at the end of april as the funds was pretty low before

mathare
29th July 2007, 11:49
Cheers Scooby. That sounds pretty easy and i like easy.Give me a few more days (and then a few quid) and you can have some software that does it all for you in seconds.

Street cry
29th July 2007, 12:04
both been great form me but i have tweaked them for higher poi both running a long tem 20% ish poi and 40% plus strike good stuff

Win2Win
29th July 2007, 12:08
both been great form me but i have tweaked them for higher poi both running a long tem 20% ish poi and 40% plus strike good stuff

I could do with a tweak, feel like I've been hit by a train, and then the buggers reversed to make sure he got me!!! :geek

alexpro7
29th July 2007, 12:24
That i do like the sound of. Will happily depart with a few wiltshire pounds for that.
Have just tried running 4 profit by myself and got 3 for carlisle and 2 for pontefract can anyone confirm that i am on right lines.

scoobydoo
29th July 2007, 12:30
That i do like the sound of. Will happily depart with a few wiltshire pounds for that.
Have just tried running 4 profit by myself and got 3 for carlisle and 2 for pontefract can anyone confirm that i am on right lines.

No...there is 2 for Carlisle and 1 for Pontefract...just go check again and have rules open.

alexpro7
29th July 2007, 12:39
Try again. 2 for carlisle 2.00 and 2.30. 1 for ponte 3.15.
Any better?

marky72
29th July 2007, 12:46
mathare is the software available through this website mate

Win2Win
29th July 2007, 12:59
mathare is the software available through this website mate

It will be. :thumbs Discount for users on here :)

marky72
29th July 2007, 13:02
cheers mate :thumbs

alright
29th July 2007, 14:20
Hi guys. What systems would mathare's software be available for?

mathare
29th July 2007, 23:52
Hi guys. What systems would mathare's software be available for?Anything. When it's ready you give me the rules and I'll automate it. I will post up full details on here in the next week or so. I have one more bug to iron out (and I am pretty sure I know what's causing it) and then it'll enter final pre-release testing and then you lot can all get your sweaty mitts on it and I can retire :laugh

scoobydoo
30th July 2007, 00:09
and then you lot can all get your sweaty mitts on it and I can retire :laugh

....to bed Mat! :laugh

I get 2 for RFP and 2 for JFP for tomorrow?

marky72
30th July 2007, 00:34
same here scooby

alexpro7
30th July 2007, 09:06
me too. think i am on right lines now

mathare
30th July 2007, 10:05
....to bed Mat! :laughIt's a generous offer but I'm afraid you're just not really my type Scoobs. Sorry.


I get 2 for RFP and 2 for JFP for tomorrow?:thumbs

3 CD Lays, 2 JFP, 1 Ladies Lay, 2 Lay'em, 1 Johnston Tracks, 1 NHPM, 1 Nine Or Less, 2 RFP and 1 Six Plus Loser

peza2605
30th July 2007, 10:44
3 CD Lays, 2 JFP, 1 Ladies Lay, 2 Lay'em, 1 Johnston Tracks, 1 NHPM, 1 Nine Or Less, 2 RFP and 1 Six Plus Loser


and a partridge in a pear tree........

Win2Win
30th July 2007, 10:44
and a partridge in a pear tree........

If you can't be serious on this forum........:rolleyes:

Ada
30th July 2007, 13:04
1 Six Plus Loser

I make it 2 Six Plus Loser qualifiers today.......

Ada. :ooo

mathare
30th July 2007, 13:07
I make it 2 Six Plus Loser qualifiers today.......

Ada. :oooWhich races?

Ada
30th July 2007, 13:09
3.00 Yarmouth
3.15 Wolverhampton

(Using RP online, NOT paper)

Ada.

Mattw07
30th July 2007, 13:34
I make 2 6+ as well same racers as Ada.

mathare
30th July 2007, 13:38
Nursery races are 2yo handicaps

Mattw07
30th July 2007, 15:37
Reading the rules no it doesnt rule out nurserys and for someone who doesnt no much about racing i would have to include it still.

Im sure im wrong but oh well.

mathare
30th July 2007, 16:41
Reading the rules no it doesnt rule out nurserys and for someone who doesnt no much about racing i would have to include it still.

Im sure im wrong but oh well.Non-handicaps are not handicaps. Nursery races ARE handicaps.

mathare
31st July 2007, 13:21
1 x Layem, 2 x Mark Johnston Tracks, 4 x NHPM, 1 x Running for Profit, 1 x Six Plus Loser, 1 x Trainer 3

scoobydoo
31st July 2007, 13:33
1x Running for Profit

:thumbs Same here.

Mattw07
31st July 2007, 14:13
1 x Layem, 2 x Mark Johnston Tracks, 4 x NHPM, 1 x Running for Profit, 1 x Six Plus Loser, 1 x Trainer 3

Looks good to me.

huckabuck
31st July 2007, 14:27
running for profit i get 2:doh (2.05) & (5.05)
huck

scoobydoo
31st July 2007, 14:32
running for profit i get 2:doh (2.05) & (5.05)
huck

2.05 Bev doesnt qualify...check again and youll see why.

huckabuck
31st July 2007, 14:38
seen it ,thanks scoob
huck

marky72
31st July 2007, 15:59
same here guys with the selections

hudsonmat
31st July 2007, 23:32
Wednesday:

6 MJ. 2 MS. 1 nine or less. 2 trainer 3.

regards
matt

mathare
1st August 2007, 10:11
1 x CD Lays, 2 x Jumping for Profit, 10 x Layem, 6 X Mark Johnston, 3 x Michael Stoute, 3 x NHPM, 1 x Nine or Less, 2 x Running for Profit, 2 x Trainer 3

What a busy day

scoobydoo
1st August 2007, 10:43
I get 2 RFP and 2 JFP Mat.:thumbs

marky72
1st August 2007, 12:06
same here guys:thumbs

Mattw07
1st August 2007, 13:03
1 x CD Lays, 2 x Jumping for Profit, 10 x Layem, 6 X Mark Johnston, 3 x Michael Stoute, 3 x NHPM, 1 x Nine or Less, 2 x Running for Profit, 2 x Trainer 3

What a busy day

So close to being the same, Can only find 2x Michael Stoute.

I Presume the one youve got is the 16:05? I wasnt 100% sure on the rules on that one but im guessing it is a selection.

mathare
1st August 2007, 13:23
So close to being the same, Can only find 2x Michael Stoute.

I Presume the one youve got is the 16:05? I wasnt 100% sure on the rules on that one but im guessing it is a selection.3.30, 4.05 and 4.40 for Stoute. Although on reviewing the rules I am not 100% sure on that one. I may have found a slight bugette in my code for this one.

It fails the second rule and is NOT a qualifier

Mattw07
1st August 2007, 13:55
3.30, 4.05 and 4.40 for Stoute. Although on reviewing the rules I am not 100% sure on that one. I may have found a slight bugette in my code for this one.

It fails the second rule and is NOT a qualifier

Ok, i wont cant it then, i wasnt 100% on that rule.

mathare
1st August 2007, 13:58
Ok, i wont cant it then, i wasnt 100% on that rule.Although having checked it with the boss it seems it IS a qualifier and passes that second rule.

jonahjones
1st August 2007, 15:01
10 x Layem

Mat, I only have eight lay'em selections.

Can we compare notes please?

mathare
1st August 2007, 15:17
Mat, I only have eight lay'em selections.

Can we compare notes please?2.40 Redcar
6.20 Kempton x 2
6.50 Kempton x 2
7.20 Kempton x 2
7.35 Leicester x 2
8.50 Kempton

jonahjones
1st August 2007, 15:27
Non-handicaps are not handicaps. Nursery races ARE handicaps.

Thanks Mat.

This is why I am missing two.

My knowledge of racing is still very limited. The e-book says that the word "handicap" should appear in the race title.

Am I taking the e-book too literally?

mathare
1st August 2007, 15:36
My knowledge of racing is still very limited. The e-book says that the word "handicap" should appear in the race title.

Am I taking the e-book too literally?Yes and no. Nursery races are sometimes written as nursery handicaps and sometimes just as nursery races. It caught me out too till recently

jonahjones
1st August 2007, 16:59
Yes and no. Nursery races are sometimes written as nursery handicaps and sometimes just as nursery races. It caught me out too till recently

Thanks Mat.

Mattw07
1st August 2007, 17:20
Although having checked it with the boss it seems it IS a qualifier and passes that second rule.

Would have been gutted if I missed that one got 26.

Cheers Keith and Mat, would of missed it if it wasnt for your post.

hudsonmat
1st August 2007, 19:24
How was regal flush a qualifier, it was 8th in the betting forecast not 1st 2nd 3rd or 4th.

matt

Win2Win
1st August 2007, 19:27
Just answered in the other thread, but it was verified here earlier.

mathare
1st August 2007, 22:28
And I got 28 on Regal Flush :D

Glad I checked that one now :laugh

scoobydoo
2nd August 2007, 00:03
Rght...I have had a go at the Flat Quickfires tonight and taken me a fair while! Ill pay yer Mat...just release it...release it now!!!!!!!:splapme:laugh

Right I have got

4x CD Lays
4x Stoute
6x Johnston
1 x 6+ Loser (error in judgement!!)
1 RFP

Go easy on me...its my first time you know!!:ooo Im sure Ive got some wrong but Ill go back and check if so...

Mattw07
2nd August 2007, 00:56
So Close scoobs, dont see the 6+ Loser myself, but all the others are spot on.
Matt

scoobydoo
2nd August 2007, 02:11
Oooh so close.....I can see why there is no 6+ loser...thanks Matt.

mathare
2nd August 2007, 10:11
4 x CD Lays
4 x Lay'em
6 x Mark Johnston
4 x Michael Stoute
1 x RFP

:thumbs

Fun innit Scoobs? :laugh

scoobydoo
2nd August 2007, 11:18
4 x CD Lays
4 x Lay'em
6 x Mark Johnston
4 x Michael Stoute
1 x RFP

:thumbs

Fun innit Scoobs? :laugh

Nope.....no fun at all! :ermmm

jonahjones
2nd August 2007, 11:31
4 x Lay'em

Mat, I also have four but, following our conversation yesterday, is there not also one in the 7.15 at Mussselburgh? (assuming that already isn't included in your four selections).

Thanks

Chris

mathare
2nd August 2007, 12:12
Mat, I also have four but, following our conversation yesterday, is there not also one in the 7.15 at Mussselburgh? (assuming that already isn't included in your four selections).
:splapme I have 5, I just can't count. :peeky The 7.15 is in there too Chris.

jonahjones
2nd August 2007, 12:16
:splapme I have 5, I just can't count. :peeky The 7.15 is in there too Chris.

Cheers Mat. :)

marky72
2nd August 2007, 12:34
i have 5 layem and 1 rfp

scoobydoo
3rd August 2007, 01:11
Ok today I have:

5x CD Lays
2x Mark Johnston
1x 6+ Loser
0 RFP
0 JFP
0 LTO3
0 Michael Stoute

How far wrong am I!! :doh

mathare
3rd August 2007, 10:04
OK, I have counted properly today and get:

1 x CD Lays
1 x First Timer
5 x Lay'em
2 x Mark Johnston
1 x NHPM
1 x Six Plus Loser
1 x Trainer 3

I'd check the CD Lays again Scoob...

scoobydoo
3rd August 2007, 10:21
Jesus.....good job I check eh! Will go and do it now...thanks Mat.Its the one I find the most trouble...may well drop it until your software is about (ignore this )....just takes too long to do for me.

scoobydoo
3rd August 2007, 10:30
Now get 1x CD Lay....Price price price! :rolleyes:I have just gone through it really quickly...if you check price first you can get rid of most cant you...:doh

Just for record..is it 8.05 Nkt Mat, anyone?

mathare
3rd August 2007, 10:42
Now get 1x CD Lay....Price price price! :rolleyes:I have just gone through it really quickly...if you check price first you can get rid of most cant you...:dohYep. I quite often reshuffle the system rules to make it quicker. For example there is no point checking a horse's form or age and then checking to see if the race is a handicap or not. Check the race first and then you know if it is worth bothering checking any of the horses. Similarly I check the meeting going, if necessary, before I look at the conditions of the races.


Just for record..is it 8.05 Nkt Mat, anyone?And yep again.

scoobydoo
3rd August 2007, 10:55
Ta Mat.

alexpro7
4th August 2007, 09:07
Just gone through R4P and i believe there are 2 qualifiers in same race at windsor. What do you do in the case of joint favourites ?

peza2605
4th August 2007, 09:40
Just gone through R4P and i believe there are 2 qualifiers in same race at windsor. What do you do in the case of joint favourites ?

i THINK you back them both as normal , but id check with someone else as well first as i lost the e book during a reboot and have only got the basic rules.

ps have you got 5 altogether?

alexpro7
4th August 2007, 09:52
Got 4 at the moment including 2 above. 1 at hamilton and 1 at newmarket.
Where is other one?

Win2Win
4th August 2007, 09:56
If you have 10 qualifiers in a race, you treat them all as individual bets, as you do with any system.

peza2605
4th August 2007, 10:10
i get two at hamilton.

alexpro7
4th August 2007, 10:17
Cheers keith.
Peza i get only 1 in 6.45. What other race do you get qualifier?

alexpro7
4th August 2007, 10:45
Got it!

mathare
4th August 2007, 11:22
7 x CD Lays
8 x Layem
1 x LTO3
5 x Mark Johnston
5 x Running for Profit
1 x Six Plus Loser

hudsonmat
4th August 2007, 13:07
7 x CD Lays
8 x Layem
1 x LTO3
5 x Mark Johnston
5 x Running for Profit
1 x Six Plus Loser

Got all of those except for the LTO3, which race is this matt?

thanks

matt

mathare
4th August 2007, 13:10
Got all of those except for the LTO3, which race is this matt?2.35 Thirsk

Ada
4th August 2007, 13:17
Ignore this post.....

Ada.

hudsonmat
4th August 2007, 13:18
thanks mat.

Its a non runner anyway.

thanks

matt

marky72
5th August 2007, 11:33
hi guys just wondering the quickfire systems do you have one bank for all 5 systems or 5 seperate banks.if you was starting with £200 bank is that for all 5 or just for 1 sytem or is it (£1000)

scoobydoo
5th August 2007, 11:41
I have seperate banks for them all...

mathare
5th August 2007, 11:50
hi guys just wondering the quickfire systems do you have one bank for all 5 systems or 5 seperate banks.if you was starting with £200 bank is that for all 5 or just for 1 sytem or is it (£1000)I have separate banks for them all, especially since the quickfire set is 4 backing systems and 1 laying system and I would never combine backs and lays into a single bank. You could potentially combine the backs into a single bank but you'd need to check over the results of the systems to see if a combined bank would work as well as separate banks as some of the systems are low SR systems aimed at picking big-priced winners and others are a steadier profit system with a higher SR and the two don't mix too well.

Of course you don't need to actually have £1000 in your sweaty mitts to start 5 banks of £200 each. You can do it with £500 (maybe even less) as long as you keep good records for each bank and know exactly how each stands. If you have 5 physically separate banks of £200 you'll find a lot of the cash sits around doing nothing as all 5 systems are extremely unlikely to crash below £100 if you're staking properly so in effect you'd have £500 sat around doing nothing.

mathare
5th August 2007, 11:53
Sunday 5th August

1 x Claiming Jockey
1 x Jumping for Profit
1 x Layem
1 x LTO3
1 x Mark Johnston
1 x Michael Stoute
1 x Running for Profit
3 x Trainer 3

marky72
5th August 2007, 11:56
thanx allot mat

hudsonmat
5th August 2007, 12:34
Agree with all those mat.

scoobydoo
5th August 2007, 12:37
Sunday 5th August

1 x Claiming Jockey
1 x Jumping for Profit
1 x Layem
1 x LTO3
1 x Mark Johnston
1 x Michael Stoute
1 x Running for Profit
3 x Trainer 3

Yes I get ...

1x JFP
1x RFP
1x LTO3 & 1x Johnston
1x Stoute

Mattw07
5th August 2007, 13:41
Is the LTO3 Selection in the 3:15?

mathare
5th August 2007, 13:43
Is the LTO3 Selection in the 3:15?Yep

Mattw07
5th August 2007, 13:45
cheers Mathare

mathare
6th August 2007, 10:21
Monday 6th August

1 x Jumping for Profit
1 x Ladies Lay
9 x Layem
2 x NHPM
1 x Running for Profit

scoobydoo
6th August 2007, 10:33
I get 1x RFP Mat.....what race is the JFP?

mathare
6th August 2007, 10:49
I get 1x RFP Mat.....what race is the JFP?The JFP got me at first as I didn't think it qualified but I am sure it does. 2.30 Newton Abbot.

scaaty
6th August 2007, 10:50
I didn't have a JFP qualifier either, so I've just rechecked and I think it must be the 2.30 - lto was a flat race, so perhaps doesn't count ? Though I can't find anything in the rules that says lto has to be NH so I'm not sure!

scoobydoo
6th August 2007, 10:53
Need some clarification I think...:dohI wouldnt have thought it would qualify but it may well do?

huckabuck
6th August 2007, 11:19
it qualifys for me scoob,i back them.i only count the last nh race
huck

marky72
6th August 2007, 11:26
it doesnt qualify with the distance beaten by rule

mathare
6th August 2007, 11:30
I didn't have a JFP qualifier either, so I've just rechecked and I think it must be the 2.30 - lto was a flat race, so perhaps doesn't count ? Though I can't find anything in the rules that says lto has to be NH so I'm not sure!LTO was flat so I am discounting it as the system is a NH system.

What you do on this rule is up to you as long as you are consistent but I would say that using the last NH run is preferable

huckabuck
6th August 2007, 11:33
it doesnt qualify with the distance beaten by rule

lto was a flat race :)
huck

marky72
6th August 2007, 11:36
what race is the rfp plz

scoobydoo
6th August 2007, 11:47
8.00 Windsor

huckabuck
6th August 2007, 11:48
what race is the rfp plz

8.00 wind

alexpro7
6th August 2007, 12:15
Why do horses in 2.00 and 3.00 at newton abbott not qualify?

mathare
6th August 2007, 12:22
Why do horses in 2.00 and 3.00 at newton abbott not qualify?Because they don't meet all the rules :splapme :wink

mathare
6th August 2007, 12:23
Why do horses in 2.00 and 3.00 at newton abbott not qualify?Distance beaten LTO rule in both cases

alexpro7
6th August 2007, 12:39
Cheers for that. So that means *****

mathare
6th August 2007, 12:41
Cheers for that. So that means *****Think about it. How far was Jenson Button beaten by in yesterday's grand prix, bearing in mind he retired on about lap 37?

scoobydoo
6th August 2007, 12:43
Think about it. How far was Jenson Button beaten by in yesterday's grand prix, bearing in mind he retired on about lap 37?

...About 97 miles???????:doh:D:D Or maybe he Dnf.....:yikes:

Mattw07
6th August 2007, 13:22
Monday 6th August

1 x Jumping for Profit
1 x Ladies Lay
9 x Layem
2 x NHPM
1 x Running for Profit

Cant find the Ladies Lay selection, theres only one that comes close and thats in the 3.00? But it doesnt qualify

Matt

mathare
6th August 2007, 13:26
Cant find the Ladies Lay selection, theres only one that comes close and thats in the 3.00? But it doesnt qualifyWhich rule doesn't it meet Matt?

Mattw07
6th August 2007, 13:29
Ignore me im being an idiot again ::swear

I thought it was rule 3, but i was looking after the horses name not before it!

scoobydoo
7th August 2007, 12:43
I get;

2x Mark Johnston
1x RFP
1x LTO3

Anybody disagree?

Mattw07
7th August 2007, 13:12
2 MJ
1 RFP

Not sure about the LTO3?
Also think theres a 6+L as well

scoobydoo
7th August 2007, 13:29
2 MJ
1 RFP

Not sure about the LTO3?
Also think theres a 6+L as well

LTO3 in 5.00 Catt Matt...see what you think? Where is the 6+ loser?

scoobydoo
7th August 2007, 13:56
2 MJ
1 RFP

Not sure about the LTO3?
Also think theres a 6+L as well

Found the 6+Loser...thanks:thumbs

Mattw07
7th August 2007, 14:11
Sorry scoobs forgot to check this thread again, yer your right I missed that one.

2 MJ
1 RFP
1 6+L
1 LTO

scoobydoo
7th August 2007, 14:26
No probs Matt....at least we get the same now.:)

Merlin
7th August 2007, 14:33
Excuse me for asking guys......but why is there such confusion arriving at selections?....:yikes:...

scoobydoo
7th August 2007, 14:38
Its just easy to miss them Merl, when you have about 7, or some have more, systems with numerous rules, it can easlily be done. We are waiting for Mats software which will make it really easy to do and pretty much foolproof!

Win2Win
7th August 2007, 17:48
It's easy to mess up when doing multiple systems, which is why it is usually best doing them the night before, and then again the next day, until your programmed to military precision!

If I had to do all my 300+ manually I'll have blown my brains out a long time ago :yikes:

Making the odd mistake does not usually make much difference over the long term.

scoobydoo
8th August 2007, 11:50
Today I get:

1x RFP
3x C&D LAY
2x LTO3

..........

Mattw07
8th August 2007, 12:55
1 R4P and 2 LTO3

Can only find 2 CD Lays, will have another check as i had to rush through them last night!

scoobydoo
8th August 2007, 13:03
1 R4P and 2 LTO3

Can only find 2 CD Lays, will have another check as i had to rush through them last night!

No...I get 2 CD Lays now Matt.....had too many runners! Thanks.

marky72
8th August 2007, 14:14
nice price on the rfp selection

scoobydoo
9th August 2007, 12:35
Right...today I get;

5x RFP
3x 6+ Loser
4x CD Lay
1x LTO3

I got distracted on this and have a feeling I am a bit out...what do you get guys???

Mattw07
9th August 2007, 12:55
5x R4P
4x 6+Loser
2x LTO3
5x CD Lay

:( Bugger!

scaaty
9th August 2007, 13:00
I've got 5RFP and 2 LTO3 as well - not doing the other two systems yet.

huckabuck
9th August 2007, 13:09
Right...today I get;

5x RFP
3x 6+ Loser
4x CD Lay
1x LTO3

I got distracted on this and have a feeling I am a bit out...what do you get guys???

2 lto3 scoobs hay & yarm
huck

scoobydoo
9th August 2007, 13:18
Thanks guys....good job I check every day! :ermmm

I now get;

5x RFP
3x 6+Loser
2x LTO3
5x CD Lay

mathare
9th August 2007, 13:29
We are waiting for Mats software which will make it really easy to do and pretty much foolproof!Keith and I are still in negotiations over this. The software is written but we are working on the best way for you lot to get the best out of it, how to handle future upgrades and things like that.

mathare
9th August 2007, 13:36
Today I have:

5 x CD Lays
5 x Layem
2 x LTO3
5 x Running for Profit
3 x Six Plus Loser

scoobydoo
9th August 2007, 13:38
Keith and I are still in negotiations over this. The software is written but we are working on the best way for you lot to get the best out of it, how to handle future upgrades and things like that.

Oh thats good news Mat...hope its not like the negotiations between Royal Mail and the Postal Union!! :yikes::wink Took me ages to do last nights....and I still made errors! :ermmm Look forward to it whenever it is. :)

Win2Win
9th August 2007, 15:41
Took me ages to do last nights....and I still made errors! :ermmm Look forward to it whenever it is. :)

That's the point of me selling them, education :thumbs

scoobydoo
9th August 2007, 16:08
That's the point of me selling them, education :thumbs

I could handle that kind of 'Education'!! :D If it makes money...who cares how long it takes eh within reason...

scoobydoo
10th August 2007, 11:33
What I get for today....

2x CD Lays
1x RFP
1x 6+Loser

Merlin
10th August 2007, 11:39
What I got today is:

6 X French Fries
2 X Coke
3 X Cheeseburger+ barbecue sauce

mathare
10th August 2007, 11:48
I get:

2 x CD Lays
7 x Layem
3 x NHPM
1 x Running for Profit
1 x Six Plus Loser

You're getting good now Scoobs :laugh

mathare
10th August 2007, 11:48
What I got today is:

6 X French Fries
2 X Coke
3 X Cheeseburger+ barbecue sauceThanks for that BigC :wink

hudsonmat
10th August 2007, 23:34
Busy saturday again:

4 x LTO3
2 x 6+
1 x MJ
1 x MS

matt

Mattw07
11th August 2007, 00:37
Saturday
havent double checked, just gone through the cards quickly will check again in the morning

2 R4P
2 6+
1 MJ
1 MS
3 LTO3
2 CD LAY

I Presume we should treat the Ascot card as normal?

scoobydoo
11th August 2007, 01:52
Saturday
havent double checked, just gone through the cards quickly will check again in the morning

2 R4P
2 6+
1 MJ
1 MS
3 LTO3
2 CD LAY

I Presume we should treat the Ascot card as normal?

I get the same as you Matt....I just wondered if the 6.40 Ling would be a CD Lay with the doubtful runner or do we ignore? But I have gone for just the 2 anyway.

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 09:58
Today I have;

4x M. Johnston
1x CD Lay
1x LTO3
1x 6+ Loser

huckabuck
12th August 2007, 10:46
scoobs were do you get the LTO3?
huck

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 11:18
scoobs were do you get the LTO3?
huck

I dont huck....oops! :doh Got done on the age again!
Thanks.

huckabuck
12th August 2007, 11:22
you just like me to double check again:laugh
huck

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 11:27
It was the 4.50 at Leicester....qualified on everything apart from one....so it didnt qualify! :doh :D

mathare
12th August 2007, 12:36
I get:

1 x CD Lays
4 x Layem
3 x Johnston Tracks
1 x Six Plus Loser

What are your 4 Mark Johnston selections Scoobs?

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 12:52
I get:

1 x CD Lays
4 x Layem
3 x Johnston Tracks
1 x Six Plus Loser

What are your 4 Mark Johnston selections Scoobs?

Youll be right...Im off to check em and will let you know! :ermmm

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 12:58
My Mark Johnstons are;

2.30 Wolves
2.50 Leicester
3.10 Redcar
4.20 Leicester

Still think they all qualify?:doh

Ada
12th August 2007, 13:00
3.10 Redcar.....Wrong race type.

Ada.

mathare
12th August 2007, 13:01
Check the race type/conditions for the 3.10 at Redcar. I'm with you on the others though

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 13:03
Thanks Ada.....! :doh Should know not to go up against Mats software!!

Win2Win
12th August 2007, 13:03
x4 Johnston Qualifiers......3.10 is a Handicap

Win2Win
12th August 2007, 13:05
Mat's software needs adjusting :)

A MAIDEN HANDICAP is not a normal MAIDEN race.

Ada
12th August 2007, 13:06
Doesn't it fail on the age rule?

Ada.

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 13:06
Thanks for clearing it up Keith. :D

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 13:06
Doesn't it fail on the age rule?

Ada.

No.

Ada
12th August 2007, 13:08
Why is that then?

What am I missing in Rule number 2?

Ada.

Win2Win
12th August 2007, 13:11
It includes ALL handicaps.

Ada
12th August 2007, 13:15
The Race is a 3yo+ Maiden Handicap.

What does rule 2 say?

Surely this race doesn't qualify.

Ada.

mathare
12th August 2007, 13:15
Mat's software needs adjusting :)Not any more it doesn't. :thumbs

Win2Win
12th August 2007, 13:17
The Race is a 3yo+ Maiden Handicap.

What does rule 2 say?

Surely this race doesn't qualify.

Ada.

It includes ALL handicaps. Simple as that. A MAIDEN is a totally different race from a handicap.

mathare
12th August 2007, 13:17
What does rule 2 say?Check the right hand side of the rules table. It qualifies

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 13:18
Not any more it doesn't. :thumbs

I dont believe you....prove it....my email address is.......:peeky! :laugh

scoobydoo
12th August 2007, 13:20
It includes ALL handicaps. Simple as that. A MAIDEN is a totally different race from a handicap.

Isnt a proper maiden all level weights apart from gender allowance or am I wrong?

Win2Win
12th August 2007, 13:29
Isnt a proper maiden all level weights apart from gender allowance or am I wrong?

Correct :thumbs

mathare
13th August 2007, 10:30
Monday's lot:

2 x CD Lays
1 x First Timer
2 x Jump for Profit
1 x Ladies Lay
6 x Layem
1 x LTO3
1 x Mark Johnston
1 x Michael Stoute
1 x NHPM

scoobydoo
13th August 2007, 10:45
2x JFP
1x M.Johnston
2x CD Lay
1x Stoute
1x LTO3

Win2Win
13th August 2007, 10:56
Mat cheats :wink

scoobydoo
13th August 2007, 11:17
Mat cheats :wink

We know! :) I can see him there having a beer and pressing a few buttons while our heads are in the racing post! :wink Have you worked out your negotiations yet then?:doh Even the posties are coming back to the table arent they? :laugh

mathare
13th August 2007, 11:21
Have you worked out your negotiations yet then?:dohAlmost. I am happy with Keith's percentage but I still don't see he wants custody of my dog's :butthead:. Especially as I don't even have a dog :splapme

Win2Win
13th August 2007, 15:59
Even the posties are coming back to the table arent they? :laugh

What table? Mat's not that posh :D

scoobydoo
14th August 2007, 10:36
What do you get today Mat?

I get;

3x CD Lay
3x LTO3
1x JFP

Any more offers?

mathare
14th August 2007, 10:38
I get:

4 x CD Lays (2.00, 3.00 Brighton; 6.30, 8.00 Musselburgh)
1 x Jump for Profit
1 x Ladies Lay
2 x Layem
3 x LTO3
1 x NHPM

scoobydoo
14th August 2007, 10:47
I get:

4 x CD Lays (2.00, 3.00 Brighton; 6.30, 8.00 Musselburgh)
1 x Jump for Profit
3 x LTO3

I think the 3.0 Bri and 6.30 Muss fail on rule 4 Mat? I get 3.30 Bri as well as 2.0 Bri and 8.0 Bri?:doh

mathare
14th August 2007, 10:53
I think the 3.0 Bri and 6.30 Muss fail on rule 4 Mat? I get 3.30 Bri as well as 2.0 Bri and 8.0 Bri?:dohTypo on one of those - I meant 3.30, not 3.00. And the 6.30 has 8 declared runners on the card even though one is doubtful.

You did well to get 8.00 at Brighton though, not many are going to hang around for that one :wink

scoobydoo
14th August 2007, 10:56
Typo on one of those - I meant 3.30, not 3.00. And the 6.30 has 8 declared runners on the card even though one is doubtful.

You did well to get 8.00 at Brighton though, not many are going to hang around for that one :wink

So the 6.30 is no bet then is it?
Yes 8.0 at Bri would be.....interesting!:splapme