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AnthoUK
3rd November 2006, 12:57
Hi All

Not sure if this is the right place to post this so sorry if not.

Does anyone here play roulette on the ITBox machines found in bookies and pubs nowadays? I ask as have seen people advertising ebooks etc to beat the machine. As I understand it the numbers are completely random so how can a system truely work? At the same time there is someone in my local who regularly wins £500 + on the machine. He probably loses a fair bit too but I haven't seen that side yet!

So are there ways to tilt the odds in your favour or are they purely random?

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mathare
3rd November 2006, 13:09
So are there ways to tilt the odds in your favour or are they purely random?There is nothing that can be done to beat a normal (live) roulette wheel. No staking system can counteract the house edge. The margin the house enjoyed cannot be reduced let alone beaten.

With these electronic versions of roulette there is a slight chance that they can be beaten, but in order to do so you need to know the random number generator (RNG) in use and to have some way of detecting patterns in that RNG. If you can find a pattern you can predict the number(s) that will come up next. But if you can do this the RNG is rubbish and not doing it's job and will be replaced by the roulette operator.

There is some big money to be made from a good RNG as online casino operators (and these other electronic roulette operators) will want the numbers that their games produce to be as random as possible. Trends and patterns can be exploited by punters; truly random outputs cannot.

There have been books written about beating live roulette based on the dealer's action and there being zones into which the dealer is more likely to put the ball based on this action but none of this applies online.

I wouldn't waste any time or money on an eBook that claims to help you beat these electronic roulette machines. It can't be done unless the RNG isn't random.

AnthoUK
3rd November 2006, 13:13
Thanks for confirming what I thought! So matey boy in my local is one lucky lad!

mathare
3rd November 2006, 13:14
Thanks for confirming what I thought! So matey boy in my local is one lucky lad!More than likely. But I'll be willing to bet he has lost quite a bit too and were he to tot up his profits and losses he would be break even at best.

AnthoUK
3rd November 2006, 13:19
More than likely. But I'll be willing to bet he has lost quite a bit too and were he to tot up his profits and losses he would be break even at best.

Indeed!

jennqeller
28th October 2009, 17:49
Even tough the roulette system cant be beaten there's room to work, especially on the bets that the player place onto the system, when those bets are based on a specific strategy in some cases that strategy could deliver consistent results and that's the goal of any system if you have consistent results its posible to upgrade from there. An advice on systems or strategies is to trust the ones of public domain, its like blackjack if there's a system that could beat the game it will be public, and will be part of the training on the game.

search, train yourself and be bold to try...

mathare
29th October 2009, 17:36
when those bets are based on a specific strategy in some cases that strategy could deliver consistent results and that's the goal of any system if you have consistent results its posible to upgrade from there. Any roulette system will deliver consistent results - you will lose at a rate determined by the immutable house edge. With roulette one cannot improve on that return.

An advice on systems or strategies is to trust the ones of public domain, its like blackjack if there's a system that could beat the game it will be public, and will be part of the training on the game.No, it's not like blackjack. There are two major differences:
i) in blackjack the player has choices, actions they may take (double down, split, stand etc) whereas in roulette your only choice is how much to stake on a given number. Once your stake is down you take no further part in deciding the outcome of that bet. In blackjack your actions can influence whether you win or lose.
ii) the true chance of you winning a roulette bet is the same for every spin regardless of the bet you place whereas in blackjack hands that have been played before using this deck influence the true chance of the hand your are dealt and thus what totals you may attain. Unless the deck is shuffled after every hand (as it is online) then roulette and blackjack are very dissimilar in as much as what has gone before does influence what is still to come in the latter but cannot in the former.