mick 56 bets

[mick56]

28/4 sel won 1.11 profit £27.75

Bank = £496

[bryn]

Well done Mick,loosing run over

[mick56]

29/4

Redc 4.0 Haigh hall
Folk 5.10 Mr hichens NR
Brig 7.0 Granny mcphee
Brig 7.30 Fault
Hunt 8.10 Phare isle

stake £25 on each

[neilb7]

29/4

Redc 4.0 Haigh hall
Folk 5.10 Mr hichens NR
Brig 7.0 Granny mcphee
Brig 7.30 Fault
Hunt 8.10 Phare isle

stake £25 on each

good luck Mick, i hope you get your bank back soon, todays could help towards it :D

[neilb7]

29/4

Redc 4.0 Haigh hall
Folk 5.10 Mr hichens NR
Brig 7.0 Granny mcphee :spinning:spinning
Brig 7.30 Fault
Hunt 8.10 Phare isle

stake £25 on each

fingers crossed for the rest

[mick56]

29/4 A lot of fuss over nothing,returning a profit of £6.50.

bank = £502.50

[mick56]

30/4 Don 2.30 Watch amigo stake £25

[bryn]

Hi Mick
Great minds think alike today HOPEFULLY

[barrelmaniac]

Hi Mick
Great minds think alike today HOPEFULLY

.... And me! I've got that horse as well!!!!!! so lets hope it will be a triple victory for us!

[mick56]

.... And me! I've got that horse as well!!!!!! so lets hope it will be a triple victory for us!

Well if we fail to get a decent price,i am going to blame weight of money from you two:)

[barrelmaniac]

Well if we fail to get a decent price,i am going to blame weight of money from you two:)


Back on track Mick :thumbs

[mick56]

30/4 sel won 1.90 profit = £47.50

bank = £550

[barrelmaniac]

It did shorten a fair bit before the off.

[bryn]

Your moving in the right direction now Mick, pitty you did not take the 11/4 early price with any of the best odds guaranteed firms.:thumbs

[mick56]

HI bryn I cocked up there mate,because i placed my own wager at BFSP,i dont want to sound ungrateful but that was a ridiculous price for a 15rn hcap.

You did well with your 11/4,but i genuinely felt it would start bigger.

I suspect BM had 10k on.

[mick56]

Back on track Mick :thumbs

I bloody well need to be mate.At -14pts i have just logged my worst months results for the past nine years.

My YTD results are + 0.97pts,so with a third of the year gone it is like starting all over.A great deal of work for £388 profit.:splapme

[barrelmaniac]

I cocked up there mate,because i placed my own wager at BFSP,i dont want to sound ungrateful but that was a ridiculous price for a 15rn hcap.

You did well with your 11/4,but i genuinely felt it would start bigger.

I suspect BM had 10k on.


Ha Ha, I wish!!!

I have to admit that I had it on BFSP too as I had thought that it was a bit short earlier on too, I didn't see the race but I suspect that he must have looked tip top and well prepared just before the off.

[mick56]

1/5 New 1.55 Dalradian

New 4.15 Swilly ferry

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

1/5 both sel lost - £50

bank = £500

[mick56]

2/5 ham 3.05 Fibs and flannel stake £25

[mick56]

2/5 sel won 2.81 profit £70.25

Bank = £570.25

[mick56]

3/5 Bev 2.50 Kaka puka

Bev 4.50 Sir george

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Good luck Mick..... Sir George looks like like a good idea :wink

[mick56]

Good luck Mick..... Sir George looks like like a good idea :wink

Cheers BM,i hope you are not planning to have another 10k on,its short enough already.

[barrelmaniac]

Cheers BM,i hope you are not planning to have another 10k on,its short enough already.

Nah, Ive decided to re-mortgage my parents house and stick 100k on it this time :yikes:

[mick56]

Nah, Ive decided to re-mortgage my parents house and stick 100k on it this time :yikes:

As is often the case i wish i had kept my mouth shut!.If the Welsh Wizard goes for it as well i am going to sue.:splapme

[barrelmaniac]

that was close.... who won?

[mick56]

3/5 both sel lost -£50

bank = £520.25

[mick56]

that was close.... who won?

Not us,we left it behind today BM.

[barrelmaniac]

unlucky mick, thought we might have pipped it for a minute

[mick56]

me to mate never mind rotten price,i have not had a barney >10/1 winner for months,a couple of those and things will look better.More chance of getting them on the flat so onwards ever onwards.

[mick56]

5/5 ches 4.0 Averroes stake £25

[mick56]

5/5 sel lost -£25

bank = £495.25

[mick56]

6/5 ches 1.45 Submariner
ffos 7.30 Opus maximus

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

6/5 both sel lost -£50

bank = £445.25

[barrelmaniac]

Unlucky today Mick. Got any selections in mind for tomorrow?

[mick56]

Unlucky today Mick. Got any selections in mind for tomorrow?

Hi BM its proving to be a hard hard time for me,but i have not given up yet.

I have two under consideration for tomorrow,Duchess dora and Russian george,now you no what to leave out of calculations!.

[mick56]

7/5 Ches 3.15 Duchess dora

Rip 7.30 Russian george

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

7/5 both sel lost -£50

bank= £395.25

[barrelmaniac]

You are having a pretty rough ride at the moment. Try and keep your chin up because this kind of strike rate cannot continue to be so low and some winners will have to come along soon. As always if you are feeling uncomfortable with losses it would be time to lower your stakes accordingly, but usually when such action is taken the winners start rolling in.

[mick56]

Hi BM,thanks for the thoughts,i am not feeling uncomfortable with the financial loss as even now it is only -5pts YTD, so 95% of my starting bank is still secure, but what is making me increasingly uncomfortable is the actual results.

When things go wrong in racing the first thing i always do is look to blame myself,what did i do wrong and how can i learn from it.The sodding thing with this protracted losing run,is that i cannot really find an answer to the above,being wise after the event there are a few minor things i might have changed but nothing significant.My feelings at present are to continue until the end of this month on the same stake,if this results in more loss then i may take a break and just paper proof until things change.

Excluding the above situation,you could say that one of the appealing aspects of horse racing is that you never no what is going to happen next,for myself this year to date has been one of untoward occurrences,and today another occurs,because i have made a good case for six horses,it is very tempting to try and whittle this down but i have decided to back them all you could call it a BM day.So here goes SOB.

Nott 1.55 King of eden LOST the real unlucky one of the lot. Finished close up 4th had to be snatched up.
Nott 2.55 Sun raider 3RD
Asco 3.25 Mabait 2ND
Thir 7.05 Destinys dream won 2.57
Wark 7.50 Night jar NR
Wark 8.20 Kajima won 1.98

Stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Unlucky so far with mabait coming second, good luck for the rest- still 3 to go so Ive got my fingers crossed for you

[barrelmaniac]

Destinys Dream came in, well done mick.

[mick56]

cheers BM a lot of fuss over nothing with the prices of the two winners proving most disappointing,prouducing a net profit on the day of £38.75

Bank = £434

[mick56]

10/5 3 bets today all at Redcar

3.50 Jimwil
4.50 Caldercruix
5.20 Azaday

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Jimwil looks like a good idea:thumbs

[mick56]

Please BM not another of your 10k investments he was 6/1+ when i posted this am.

[barrelmaniac]

2 more to go so fingers crossed

[barrelmaniac]

2 more to go so fingers crossed


second one came in.... good luck for your final bet of the day

[mick56]

second one came in.... good luck for your final bet of the day

Cheers BM

[mick56]

10/4 3 sel and the wrong one won producing a loss on the day of £4

bank = £430

[mick56]

12/4 two bets both at York

2.10 Kaptain kirkup

4.55 Contract cleaner

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

back on track mick!!!!!!!!!

Good going, I had a horse in that race which lost, the only consolation is seeing you win. I hope you got a good early price on it.

[mick56]

back on track mick!!!!!!!!!

Good going, I had a horse in that race which lost, the only consolation is seeing you win.

Cheers BM i needed that,bfsp dissapointing there was plenty of 12/1 now less a 10p R4 this morning,but the net 6.84 still helpful.

[mick56]

12/4 2 sel one lost and the other won 6.84 profit = £146

bank = £576

[barrelmaniac]

Nice one Mick.

[mick56]

Nice one Mick.

Cheers BM just been replaying 4.55 Contract caterer very unfortunate,had the same with Garden of eden on sat,that's racing.Could have three for tomorrow would be nice to keep the momentum going.

[mick56]

13/5

SAL 1.55 Contredanse
SAL 4.45 Rio mist
YOR 3.10 Wannabe king

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Good start Mick.... did you get a good price?

[mick56]

Good start Mick.... did you get a good price?

Cheers BM placed it at BFSP,because i felt it might drift owing to the prejudice some still have about female riders.So ended up with 4.53 net,so beat ISP and emp.

[mick56]

13/5...... 3 bets 1 lost and 2 won at 4.52 and 3.81 profit = £183.25

bank = £759.25

[barrelmaniac]

13/5...... 3 bets 1 lost and 2 won at 4.52 and 3.81 profit = £183.25

bank = £759.25

you can't grumble at today, looks like you are getting back on track again

[mick56]

you can't grumble at today, looks like you are getting back on track again

Hmm thats 6 winners from the last 10 bets,but prices have mostly been less than antisipated,and there is a lot of lost time to make up,apart from that no grumbles!!!.

[neilb7]

Hmm thats 6 winners from the last 10 bets,but prices have mostly been less than antisipated,and there is a lot of lost time to make up,apart from that no grumbles!!!.

its moving in the right direction Mick:thumbs

nice one

[mick56]

its moving in the right direction Mick:thumbs

nice one

Cheers neilb ,about bloody time.

[mick56]

14/5

york 2.10 Dangerous midge L
york 4.55 Beat the rush NR
newb 4.35 Berling WON 5.14
newc 8.25 Dubai dynamo WON 4.28

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Well done mick- thats you in profit for the day, takes the stress off for the day now.

[mick56]

14/5
3 sel 1 lost and 2 won at 5.13 and 4.28 profit = £210.25

bank = £969.50

[neilb7]

14/5
3 sel 1 lost and 2 won at 5.13 and 4.28 profit = £210.25

bank = £969.50

nice one Mick,

really pleased your back on track :thumbs:thumbs

keep it going .....

[mick56]

nice one Mick,

really pleased your back on track :thumbs:thumbs

keep it going .....

Cheers mate hope to:thumbs

[barrelmaniac]

There you go Mick, just shows how quickly things can turn around!

[bryn]

Nice one Mick:thumbs

[mick56]

15/5

Newm 2.15 highly regal
Newb 2.30 verdant
Thir 3.15 take my hand
Thir 5.0 captain dunne

Stake £25 on each

[mick56]

15/5 4 sel all lost - £100

bank = £869.50

[mick56]

17/5 bath 3.0 Lady hester

stake £25

PN the horses i post here are the ones i back myself,and i have introduced a new discipline that i will not wager at less than 7/4 so as the results here are shown at BFSP the ruling will be min gross price of 2.76 on betfair below this no bet.The bets are all in hcaps so the situation will not occur very often,but it could apply to today's selection.

[mick56]

17/5 sel won but not counted,unfortunately NR and late W/D ensured she was well below the acceptable min price of 7/4.

[barrelmaniac]

Sods law that the day you introduce that rule you could have gotten a winner- but thats usually the way it goes!

[mick56]

Sods law that the day you introduce that rule you could have gotten a winner- but thats usually the way it goes!

Hi BM sods law is something i have tasted a lot during the past few months,
but not disappointed about today.Have got five under serious consideration for tomorrow,its probably going to be a long night.

[barrelmaniac]

Hi BM sods law is something i have tasted a lot during the past few months,
but not disappointed about today.Have got five under serious consideration for tomorrow,its probably going to be a long night.

:omg:

[mick56]

:omg:

Yes i no five is small fry to you BM,but a very big deal for me.:)

[barrelmaniac]

Yes i no five is small fry to you BM,but a very big deal for me.:)

The difference is that thankfully I'm not putting money on my method selections :ermmm I remember a couple of months ago you were struggling to find horses to bet on but now they are coming thick and fast!

[mick56]

The difference is that thankfully I'm not putting money on my method selections :ermmm I remember a couple of months ago you were struggling to find horses to bet on but now they are coming thick and fast!

Yes that's true in both cases.Most years i avg 300 bets but unfortunately they dont come evenly spaced sometimes there are several consecutive days when i can find nothing.So while i am not really comfortable with more than two on the same day i have come round to the way of thinking that the opportunities must be taken when found.

It just puts extra pressure on you but that's part of the bill.

[mick56]

18/5 good morning everyone,a new experiance for me today because there are six horses i am going to back.I dont no whether to feel pleased or frightened about this i guess i will no the answer to that in 12hrs time.

nott 2.0 tell halaf
nott 3.0 pherousa
nott 4.0 sunrise lyric
brig 3.20 yourgolftravel com
carl 8.0 night jar
carl 8.30 cheyenne red

stake £25 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Bad luck today Mick, although some of your higher priced horses certainly were not disgraced in their runs.

Got your eye on any selections for tomorrow?

[mick56]

18/5 a rotten day one NR and two where placed at 11.96 and 8.59 but a loss of £125 ouch

bank = £744.50

[mick56]

Bad luck today Mick, although some of your higher priced horses certainly were not disgraced in their runs.

Got your eye on any selections for tomorrow?

Hi bm yes i dont feel as gutted as i expected !.

The only one i have under consideration for tomorrow is a fav ling 3.0 Galiotto
currently fc 9/4.So not much to get excited about.

[barrelmaniac]

Hi bm yes i dont feel as gutted as i expected !.

The only one i have under consideration for tomorrow is a fav ling 3.0 Galiotto
currently fc 9/4.So not much to get excited about.


Lets hope for a bit of luck, I might have time to do some method selections myself tomorrow, but I can safely say that my luck on my systems was equally as bad as your luck on your bets today, but that's racing. I never complain about any horse that wins, If it doesn't win a decent chunk of money its damage limitation at the very least.

[mick56]

19/5 ling 3.0 Galiotto

stake £25

[bryn]

Good luck today Mick. I am also on the same selection Galioto @ early price of 7/4 :thumbs

[barrelmaniac]

Good luck today Mick. I am also on the same selection Galioto @ early price of 7/4 :thumbs

Me too on my method bets!

[mick56]

19/5 sel 2nd but no bet as below min price.

[mick56]

20/5

hay 3.25 mujaadel
hay 4.0 gene autry
san 6.20 rock a doodle do
san 7.25 agent archie

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

20/5 2 lost one below the 2.76 min and one winner at net 7.98.. profit = £149.50

bank = £894

[bryn]

Well done Mick. It`s going in the right direction now:thumbs

[mick56]

Well done Mick. It`s going in the right direction now:thumbs

cheers bryn,i am now approaching six months in on this challenge,and frankly would have expected by this time to be nicely infront.It has been a rotten period,but lessons have been learnt.

A big day again for me although two of the selections may not meet the min price requirement of GROSS BFSP 2.76.

catt 3.50 frognal
chep 4.10 mabuya
chep 5.10 satwa laird
yarm 4.30 honorable endeavor
yarm 5.0 sharp soverign
hayd 8.30 gritstone

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

Interesting market move when i posted Frognal this am hills and others offering 10/1 bog it is now 5/2 with vc.

[mick56]

21/5 poss 6 bets today 2 where below the min 2.76 ,the other 4.... 3 lost and 1 winner at bfsp 3.04,which was dissapointing as plenty of 6/1 emp this AM.

Anyway the end result puts me in the embarrassing position of posting to days profit of ONE POUND.

bank = £895

[mick56]

22/5

hay 2.0 private story
hay 2.30 balducci
hay 4.05 fathsta
che 3.25 brae hill
che 5.10 paquerettza

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

22/5 five bets three won at net 4.02.. 3.13.. 7.44... profit = £314 .75

bank = £1209.75

[neilb7]

22/5 five bets three won at net 4.02.. 3.13.. 7.44... profit = £314 .75

bank = £1209.75

:thumbs:thumbs:happyboun

[bryn]

22/5 five bets three won at net 4.02.. 3.13.. 7.44... profit = £314 .75

bank = £1209.75

Well done Mick nicely in profit now. Keep up the good work mate :thumbs

[mick56]

23/5

Bath 3.05 Sunny future

stake £ 25

The horses i put up in this challenge,are backed by myself i bet level stakes from a 100pts bank.When i started this challenge at the end of last NOV,i used a £50 stake giving myself 20 chances,i then encountered the worst results that i have had for years,the bank fell to below £500 and i bottled it and reduced stakes to £25 a slight recovery has been made and the bank now stands at £1209,and although pleased about this it now presents a problem.If i follow my own staking it will mean continuing to deploy small stakes here.

I have decided to try a few at £40 which currently gives me 30 chances,and see what occurs , but your thoughts on this are welcome.

Have now decided to try bryns advice of 2% never decreasing so stake is now £25

[barrelmaniac]

Thats really good going Mick, well done!

[mick56]

Thats really good going Mick, well done!

Cheers BM the support and encouragement i recived from yourself and other members has been most helpful during this difficult time.

[bryn]

23/5

Bath 3.05 Sunny future

stake £40

The horses i put up in this challenge,are backed by myself i bet level stakes from a 100pts bank.When i started this challenge at the end of last NOV,i used a £50 stake giving myself 20 chances,i then encountered the worst results that i have had for years,the bank fell to below £500 and i bottled it and reduced stakes to £25 a slight recovery has been made and the bank now stands at £1209,and although pleased about this it now presents a problem.If i follow my own staking it will mean continuing to deploy small stakes here.

I have decided to try a few at £40 which currently gives me 30 chances,and see what occurs , but your thoughts on this are welcome.


Mick. My thoughts about your staking is to stick to your £25 which is about 2% of your bank. If your bank increase stake 2% but if you experience a loosing run do not reduce from your highest stake. This will give you 50 chances before you loose the bank. Hope this helps:thumbs

[mick56]

Mick. My thoughts about your staking is to stick to your £25 which is about 2% of your bank. If your bank increase stake 2% but if you experience a loosing run do not reduce from your highest stake. This will give you 50 chances before you loose the bank. Hope this helps:thumbs

Cheers bryn, 2% never decreasing i like the sound of this so will give it a try.

[mick56]

23/5 sel WON 3.14 profit = £78.50

bank = £1288.25

Once again a disappointing bfsp there was plenty of 5/1 bog this AM

[mick56]

Three days with no bet and now four on the same day,is the fault with me or the program planners?.

27/5

ayr 3.50 Daring dream
ayr 5.20 Mr lu
newc 7.0 Averoo
sand 8.50 Invisable man

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

27/4

4 bets 3 lost and a winner at 3.64 profit = £16

bank = £1304.25

[barrelmaniac]

27/4

4 bets 3 lost and a winner at 3.64 profit = £16

bank = £1304.25


Profit is profit Mick, I had Mr Lu as well today so a nice little winner there for me too, I took bsp as I was working all day so I couldn't even consider going for an early price.

Any possible selections for tomorrow? I think it will be another relatively busy day for me.

[mick56]

Profit is profit Mick, I had Mr Lu as well today so a nice little winner there for me too, I took bsp as I was working all day so I couldn't even consider going for an early price.

Any possible selections for tomorrow? I think it will be another relatively busy day for me.

Hi bm i got some of the 5/1 bog against the winner ,although there was a R4.But most of mine went on at the bfsp,i misread the market just did not envisage him starting 5/2 fav

I have the chance of three tomorrow but all will be shortish prices.
featherd crown
spirit is needed
lady lauchmhar

currently fc 11/4 ... 9/4 ...2/1 but will not finalise plans until the morning.

[mick56]

28/5

newm 2.55 Feathered crown
newm 4.40 Spirit is needed
pont 7.0 Lady luachmhar

stake £25 on each

It appears that some/all of the above may be shortier price than antisipated so all will have my min price stipulation of gross bfsp 2.76

[mick56]

28/5 3 sel 2 below min price the other one lost -£25

bank= £1279.25

[mick56]

29/5 a sob day with 6 bets

bev 3.10 Indian skipper
bev 4.50 By command
bev 5.25 Cheyenne
cat 3.25 Hajoum
hay 5.20 Navajo chief
new 5.40 Perfect shot

stake £25 on each

[mick56]

29/5 6 bets 3 won.. @ 6.84...10.43...4.15... profit = £460.50

bank = £1739.75

[eruptive plot]

:thumbs well done mick

[mick56]

Cheers EP

30/5 newm 5.50 Tell halaf

stake £30

[mick56]

30/5 sel lost -£30

bank = £1709.75

[bryn]

Not a good day for either of us today Mick. How do you manage your staking now mate ?

[mick56]

Not a good day for either of us today Mick. How do you manage your staking now mate ?

Hi bryn the 9/2 bog Tell Halaf was fair but in a 15rn hcap with no NR the 5/2 sp was ridiculous.

My staking ,i am following your suggestion of 2% never decreasing,but rather than fiddle about with stakes like £ 32 i am going to progress to the nearest £10 down so the next increase will be £2000 uses £40.

It will take much longer to reach the 5k (if atall) but i like this forum so guess i am in for the long haul.

[bryn]

Hi bryn the 9/2 bog Tell Halaf was fair but in a 15rn hcap with no NR the 5/2 sp was ridiculous.

My staking ,i am following your suggestion of 2% never decreasing,but rather than fiddle about with stakes like £ 32 i am going to progress to the nearest £10 down so the next increase will be £2000 uses £40.

It will take much longer to reach the 5k (if atall) but i like this forum so guess i am in for the long haul.

Thats great mate good luck:thumbs

[mick56]

31/5

leic 3.40 london gold
redc 3.35 judiciary
redc 4.10 cairnsmore

stake £30 on each

[Win2Win]

Some shifty scouser has nicked your Caps key :)

[mick56]

Some shifty scouser has nicked your Caps key :)
No mate thats just my inferiority complex,plus i am a big bloke so can afford to type small.:)

[barrelmaniac]

really going great mick, keep up the good work

[mick56]

really going great mick, keep up the good work
Cheers BM its about bloody time.

[mick56]

31/5

3 bets, 1 winner at 2.52...... profit £15.60

Bank = £1725.35

[mick56]

1/6

Redc 4.0 Lucky Dan

stake £30

[mick56]

1/6 sel won 3.52 .... profit = £105.60

Bank = £1830.95

I am begining to get a bit piddled off with BFSP this horse was 6/1 bog with 365 this am and this is becoming a regular occourance with my bets.

[barrelmaniac]

1/6 sel won 3.52 .... profit = £105.60

Bank = £1830.95

I am begining to get a bit piddled off with BFSP this horse was 6/1 bog with 365 this am and this is becoming a regular occourance with my bets.

It was 8.0 on betfair an hour before the race started...... I was keeping a close eye on it as it was one of my system bets today :thumbs


Good going again Mick :thumbs

[mick56]

It was 8.0 on betfair an hour before the race started...... I was keeping a close eye on it as it was one of my system bets today :thumbs


Good going again Mick :thumbs

HI BM do you recall how much liquidity at 8.0?

[barrelmaniac]

HI BM do you recall how much liquidity at 8.0?


sorry, I can't..... all I know is that my five quid got matched lol

[mick56]

2/6

Nott 4.15 Dream spinner
Rip 7.40 Masked dance

stake £30 on each

[mick56]

2/6 2 sel 1 lost and 1 won 2.28 .....profit = £38.40

bank = £1869.35

[mick56]

3/6

Ling 2.50 Helaku
Ham 4.10 Cheyenne red
Ham 4.40 Lady eclair

stake £30 on each

[mick56]

3/6
3 sel 2 lost and the winner not counted as started below 2.76

So loss of £60 on day

Bank = £1809.35

[mick56]

4/6

Eps 3.25 Tartan gunna
Eps 5.25 Kajima
Don 6.35 Rubens rock

Stake £30 on each

[mick56]

4/6
3 bets 1 not backed below min price the other two lost so -£60 on day

Bank = £1749.35

[mick56]

5/6 Newc 9.05 Liberty Lady

Stake £30

[mick56]

5/6 sel lost.... - £30

bank = £1719.35

[barrelmaniac]

unlucky today Mick, any for consideration tomorrow?

[mick56]

unlucky today Mick, any for consideration tomorrow?

HI BM at present looking like a no bet day for me tomorrow.

[mick56]

6/6 Brig 2.30 What katie did.

stake £30

[barrelmaniac]

6/6 Brig 2.30 What katie did.

stake £30


Drifting a bit, I have that selection too but thought it best to stick that one on bsp,

fingers crossed!


............. edit. I thought we had it for a second, but beaten by an outsider

[mick56]

6/6 sel lost ..... - £30

bank = £1689.35

HI BM yes no complaints at the price,would have preferred slightly easier ground.

[bryn]

Mick.It`s nice to see your challenge nicely in profit after a long time in the red.Keep up the good work mate :spinning

[mick56]

7/6
Wind 8.0 Kingsgate choice
stake £30

[mick56]

7/6 sel won 1.90 .... profit = £57

bank = £1746.35

[barrelmaniac]

good going mick!!!! you're on fire!!!!! :thumbs

[mick56]

Cheers BM.

[mick56]

8/6
Sal 5.30 Strathcal
Stake £30

[bryn]

8/6
Sal 5.30 Strathcal
Stake £30

Mick. We are on the same selection today. Hopefully great minds think alike and good luck to both of us.:)

[mick56]

Mick. We are on the same selection today. Hopefully great minds think alike and good luck to both of us.:)

Likewise bryn but has shrunk to ridiculous price, and i fear the change in going could do us.

[mick56]

8/6 sel won but below 2.76 so not counted.

bank = £1746.35

[mick56]

9/6 a SOB day with five bets

Hay 3.20 Ghost wing
Bev 3.30 Mohawk ridge
Bev 4.30 Dubawi king
Yar 5.10 Sharp eclipse
Ham 7.35 Indian skipper

Stake £ 30 on each.

[barrelmaniac]

Big day Mick, my day also has more qualifiers than average.

[mick56]

Big day Mick, my day also has more qualifiers than average.

HI BM yes it is but for myself may not end up so, the horses i put up here are the ones from which my own bets are placed,but owing to going changes or unrealistic prices i often swerve some of them its a swings and roundabouts thing but on balance increases my ROI.

Sometimes a descision is not made until close to the off,and i realise that these factors cannot be fairly included in this challenge.

To day is a good example with the strong poss of going changes at several courses.

[barrelmaniac]

HI BM yes it is but for myself may not end up so, the horses i put up here are the ones from which my own bets are placed,but owing to going changes or unrealistic prices i often swerve some of them its a swings and roundabouts thing but on balance increases my ROI.

Sometimes a descision is not made until close to the off,and i realise that these factors cannot be fairly included in this challenge.

To day is a good example with the strong poss of going changes at several courses.

personally I wouldn't have a problem if some of your selections are cancelled here prior to the off. you are right about the going today which is likely to be changable and possibly will shake things up a bit.
As for my results from the past month or so with the settled weather I'm starting to think that perhaps changeable conditions are better for my systems although it would take a massive amount of time to prove one way or another.

Also I think you probably have the right idea swerving the low odds, I don't do this in an attempt to keep the strike rate up, but I think most people on here would agree that its difficult to get a good roi with very short prices.

[mick56]

Also I think you probably have the right idea swerving the low odds, I don't do this in an attempt to keep the strike rate up, but I think most people on here would agree that its difficult to get a good roi with very short prices.

HI BM as with all things in racing it is difficult to achieve a balance,i dont tend to just swerve only those below 7/4 there is the odd occasion when even this price could be viewed as reasonable value,and conversely 4/1 may be below the exceptable price range for a selection,but trying to incorporate this and other factors into the challenge would i fear create unnecessary complications to what is viewed as a bit of fun.

As one example from today Ham 7.35 indian skipper i have formed the opinion that the FC G-F going is a necessity if i am to back him but with showers FC i will have to wait until 7.30pm before placing my bet, this type of decision i have to make on a frequent basis and is an important part of the whole.

In fact when referring to my own ROI on this forum i tend so as not to complicate matters quote the same figs as prouduced by the challenge horses but in real terms because of losers swerved and prices obtained they are much better than claimed as i would rather sell my self short than be thought of as a bragging after timer.

[barrelmaniac]

wow, ghostwing shortened a lot before the off.

[mick56]

wow, ghostwing shortened a lot before the off.

Yes but i swerved him he needs fast ground will also be giving Sharp eclise a miss totally stupid price IMO.The other 3 appear ok.

[mick56]

8/6 5 bets one not backed the other 4 lost so loss of £120

bank = £1626.35

[Godspot]

Fascinating stuff tho! See that Tangerine Trees? Won 7 races, never won by more than a neck but

I would put the name Micky P in your notebook Mick. Your Sharp Eclipse just beaten 5l's by a filly who was behind him last time - in time of the meet fashion but the first two that day won on the same card too. That Bonnie Brae should be winning again but Micky P should be on a winning mark for sure!

[mick56]

10/6 Newb 5.20 Yashid

Stake £30

[mick56]

10/6 sel lost .... - £30

bank = £1596.35

[mick56]

11/6
York 3.25 Deauville flyer
York 4.35 Captain carey
Chep 8.40 Critical path

stake £30 on each

[barrelmaniac]

:thumbs

[mick56]

10/6 3 bets 1 lost and 2 won at 6.27 & 2.80 .....profit = £242.10

bank = £ 1838.45

[barrelmaniac]

great going mick

[mick56]

great going mick

Cheers BM disapointing bfsp the last one but managed 4/1 bog with my own money.

[Godspot]

11/6
York 3.25 Deauville flyer

stake £30 on each

Nice shout that Mick, brilliant in fact! On one set of figures I got only one horse this month has ran better and he broke the course record in the Derby! Could well have found the Northumberland Plate winner but either way, nominated for Goal of the Month! Great stuff!:thumbs

[mick56]

RE above cheers GS

12/6
Sand 2.55 Coasting
Bath 3.20 Setters princess
Bath 3.55 Fine lace NR
Bath 5.35 Beauchamp xiara
Ling 6.50 Eye for the girls

Stake £30 on each

[mick56]

12/6 4 bets all lost ....-£120

bank = £1718.45

[barrelmaniac]

12/6 4 bets all lost ....-£120

bank = £1718.45

not a great day, but you are still nicely in the driving seat, you have done very well lately and you can treat today as a day where you have got some losers out of the way and hopefully you will be back with some more good winners pronto

[mick56]

13/6
Sals 2.0 Mabuya
Donc 5.10 Tillietudlem

Stake £30 on each

[barrelmaniac]

Another decent winner Mick- you're on good form. Shame it shortened a lot just before the off, I had that selection too and I stuck it on bsp, and I just managed to get back from work to see it shorten, hopefully you got a decent early price on it.

[mick56]

13/6 ..two bets one won at 2.60 profit = £48

bank = £ 1766.45

Hi BM Yes i got bog 4/1 the winner with Corals this pm, bfsp has proved a great disappointment recently.

[mick56]

15/6
Thir 3.25 Destinys dream

stake £30

[mick56]

15/6
sel lost - £30

bank = £1736.45

[mick56]

16/6
Ham 2.55 Destiny dancer
Ham 3.35 Graceful decent
Rip 8.50 Safebreaker

stake £ 30 on each

[mick56]

16/6 3 bets all lost ...-£90

bank = £1646.45

[mick56]

17/6
Rip 5.10 Boston blue
stake £30

[barrelmaniac]

17/6
Rip 5.10 Boston blue
stake £30

Looks to me that there's some good value in that bet. Good luck.

[mick56]

Looks to me that there's some good value in that bet. Good luck.

Yes i took the 11/4 bog at 10.30 that will do.

[mick56]

17/6
sel lost -£30

bank = 1616.45

[barrelmaniac]

Sorry Mick, I hope that I didn't jinx it for you when I included it in my method bets.

[mick56]

Sorry Mick, I hope that I didn't jinx it for you when I included it in my method bets.

NO worries BM it ended up a ridiculouse price.Never mind tomorrow looks interesting.

[mick56]

18/6
Muss 3.35 Mr lu
Redc 4.0 Filligree
Muss 5.20 Jiga jig
Ayr 7.15 Daring dream
Newm 7.35 Eywa
Ayr 8.20 Commanche raider

Stake £30 on each

[mick56]

18/6
6 bets only one win at 3.42 , loss of £47.40

bank = £1569.05

[mick56]

19/6
Ayr 3.30 Lady eclair
Red 4.10 Dannys choice
Red 5.55 Vilnius
Hay 7.35 Francis walsingham

stake £30 on each

[mick56]

19/6
4 bets all lost - £120

bank = £1449.05

[mick56]

21/6
Wind 6.40 Dolcetto
stake £30

[mick56]

21/6
selection won 29.0 ... profit = £870

bank = £2319.05

[barrelmaniac]

21/6
selection won 29.0 ... profit = £870

bank = £2319.05


what a great winner mick..... well done- I bet your smiling today!!!

[mick56]

what a great winner mick..... well done- I bet your smiling today!!!

Cheers BM yes well pleased it was not an easy descion to bet Stuck mine on at min 12.0 bfsp and was half hoping it would not be met pleased to be proved wrong.

My annual income from betting is based on avg 3pts lsp per month or 36pts a year,having taken a years wages from may.i never expected to do close to the same with one bet on one horse.

[barrelmaniac]

Cheers BM yes well pleased it was not an easy descion to bet Stuck mine on at min 12.0 bfsp and was half hoping it would not be met pleased to be proved wrong.

My annual income from betting is based on avg 3pts lsp per month or 36pts a year,having taken a years wages from may.i never expected to do close to the same with one bet on one horse.


That really is fantastic going, and it must really take the pressure off the rest of the year, I hope that one day I will be in your situation of being able to make a living from betting although at the moment things are not going great for me I still am still confident in what I am doing but as Im sure you will agree it takes time. ...... A MASSIVE :thumbs for you Mick

[mick56]

22/6

Bev 3.15 Fujin dancer
Brig 3.30 Yourgolftravel.com

Stake £40 on each

[mick56]

22/6
two bets both lost -£80

bank = £2239.05

[mick56]

23/6

Sal 3.50 Vulcanite

stake £40

[mick56]

23/6

selection won 4.66 profit = £186.40

bank = £2425.45

Once again dissapointing bfsp with plenty of bog 7/1 up this morning

[barrelmaniac]

you are having a fantastic year, It just gets better and better.... try and pass some luck over to me!

[mick56]

you are having a fantastic year, It just gets better and better.... try and pass some luck over to me!

BM i would love to.In fact my results are far better than published ,as i have often been able to secure some of the bog prices and also swerve some of the poor value losers.

But no matter how good current results might be you will NEVER find me getting big headed or cocky because i no enough about this business to no just how bloody difficult it is to make money and whatever my YTD results i live with the constant knowledge that it could easly go tits up.

Three possibles to day but i will post them a bit later on.

[mick56]

24/6
Goodw 2.0 Santefisio
Newc 5.05 Sharp sovereign
Leic 8.10 Maid in heaven

stake £40 on each

[mick56]

24/6
3 bets 2 lost and 1 won 2.58....profit £23.20

bank = £2448.65

[mick56]

25/6
Folk 4.45 Dazzling begum
Newc 6.50 George adamson
Newm 7.35 Shelfah

stake £40 on each

[bryn]

You are on fire Mick.Good luck for today:thumbs

[mick56]

You are on fire Mick.Good luck for today:thumbscheers mate it was my pleasure to shout home your winner today :thumbs

[mick56]

25/6 3 bets one not backed below min 2.76,the other two lost -£80

bank= £2368.65

[mick56]

26/6
Ches 3.45 Laylas hero
Ling 6.50 Miss kitty grey

stake £40 on each

[mick56]

26/6
2 sel both lost -£80

bank = £2288.65

[mick56]

28/6
Muss 9.25 Weetentherty
stake £40

PN i backed this one at bog 11/1 at 9.30am it is now 13/2 with the same firm and even lower with others.The 11/1 IMO justified the risk,i am not sure that 13/2 does although hopefully the returned BFSP will be better.

[barrelmaniac]

That is one of my selections too, although I stuck it on bsp last night as I thought that I would be working today. Fingers crossed though!

[mick56]

That is one of my selections too, although I stuck it on bsp last night as I thought that I would be working today. Fingers crossed though!

HI BM could i ask was it a system or method bet for you ?.

[barrelmaniac]

Its a system bet, I consider today a fairly risky day regarding my system bets as it seems to have thrown up quite a few relative outsiders, but if a system says so the bets go on. Until I have better knowledge and can get myself into method betting that's the ways its going to be for the short/medium term.

[mick56]

28/6
sel lost -£40
bank= £2248.65

[barrelmaniac]

Sorry Mick looks like I jinxed you again :headbange

[mick56]

29/6

Thir 6.30 Tillietudlem

Stake £40 min 2.76 bfsp

[mick56]

29/6
sel won but not counted as below min.

[mick56]

1/7

Yarm 4.10 Aktia
Newb 9.10 Christopher wren

stake £40 on each

[mick56]

1/7
2 bets both won but 1 not counted( below gross 2.76), the other @ 2.69 profit £107.60

bank = £ 2356.25

Poor bfsp with 9/4 and 7/2 bogs avalible this AM

[mick56]

2/7
Hayd 6.40 Angelo poliziano
stake £40

[mick56]

2/7 sel won 2.74 ....profit = £109.60

bank = £ 2465.85

Yet another disappointing bfsp i took 9/2 bog pp this am and with R4 still got paid > 4/1

[mick56]

3/7
Sand 2.35 Acrostie
Hayd 3.25 The fonz
Beve 4.25 Cabal (2.76 gross min)
Carl 6.55 Dark moments

stake £40 on each

[mick56]

3/7
4 bets 3 backed all lost.... - £120

bank = £2345.85

[relaymandotcom]

Mick well done, do you use other people tips if not how do you do selections ?

[mick56]

Mick well done, do you use other people tips if not how do you do selections ?

Hi relay,only my own and not an easy question to answer with a shortish reply.

I target chosen hcaps starting work at the four day stage,and looking for lossers.By the evening before the race i may have got one or more races down to just one horse,these then become the only races of interest ,and the one horse is promoted to what i term a possible bet.

These possibles then have the above process reversed IE i now look to see if IMO they can win the race.

If the answer is yes or may be then on the morning of race every thing is re checked NR and going changes considered and of course available prices.

I have achieved far better results during the period of posting my selections here but cannot build some of the above into the thread as sometimes my descision to back or not a selection is not made until very close to the off time.

Hope this gives you some idea of my MO i have made a lot of posts on different parts of this forum concerning some of the above.But if you have any more questions please ask and i will answer if able PS welcome to the forum.

[relaymandotcom]

Thanks for that Mick, realised who you are now, small world ........I may relay yours , watch out !!!:happyboun

[mick56]

8/7
Epsom 9.0 Poppanan min 2.76 gross bfsp
stake £40

[mick56]

8/7 sel lost -£40
bank = £2305.85

[MattR]

Where have you gone Mick?

[scoobydoo]

Where have you gone Mick?

I was thinking that...although maybe not at the same time as yourself. :doh Where is TOW too?

[mick56]

Hi all win2winners and happy new year.My apologies for stopping posting without explanation last year(there was a good forum related reason for this but its sorted and it will serve no useful purpose in dragging it up here).

So will continue this thread where i left it with a balance of £2305.85.

Todays bet Ayr 2.25 Stopped out 8/1 bog Corals stake £40.

[mick56]

sel lost bank = £2265.85

[bryn]

Hello Mick. Welcome back.

[scoobydoo]

Nice to see you back Mick :smile:

[Godspot]

Welcome back Mick, good to see...ya!

[MattR]

Welcome back Mick :smile:

[mick56]

Catt 3.50 Roninski 3/1 BS
Worc 4.40 Tara warrior 13/8 WH
Kemp 7.20 Junket 9/2 Fred

Stake £20 on each.

[mick56]

3 bets with 2 won at 3/1 & 10/11 gives profit of £58.

Bal = £2363.85

[Godspot]

Welcome back Mick, good to see...ya!

When's the next bet Mick, April time? :smile:

[mick56]

When's the next bet Mick, April time? :smile:

Very selective thats me GS ,April 1st 2013 should do it :smile::smile::smile: