PDA

View Full Version : mathare's Premier Lays



mathare
16th May 2010, 13:00
I think I have earned the right to start a Pro-Bets thread for my lays given the success of the False Favs systems I ran until recently. And so I give you Premier Lays :)

I hope to be able to post up a full set of stats from an extensive backtest of this idea but this will have to wait until I am a bit more with it (I only got back from holiday at 2am!). For now you'll just have to make do with the qualifiers.

This system will produce fewer qualifiers than my previous lay system, perhaps only 1 or 2 a day on average. The selections will have a greater ROI than my other system though.

As with the False Favs thread, the selections are profitable without the application of an odds filter but laying only those selections in the 3/1 to 13/2 SP price bracket (which is approximately equal to 4.4 to 9.0 on Betfair) results in a significantly greater strike rate and ROI.

Let's get down to business...

mathare
16th May 2010, 13:11
Sunday 16th May
2.50 Stratford Classic Swain

mathare
17th May 2010, 12:27
Classic Swain beaten a hd at 8/15 so a good start.

I don't have all the stats set up for this yet, give me a couple of days to get various things sorted though.

mathare
17th May 2010, 12:27
Monday 17th May
3.20 Newton Abbot Working Title
4.30 Bath Home Advantage

mathare
18th May 2010, 11:15
Both of yesterday's selections went off at 15/2, one won and one lost

Nothing for today (Tuesday)

mathare
19th May 2010, 11:12
Wednesday 19th May
2.25 Lingfield Loyalty

mathare
20th May 2010, 09:36
Loyalty lost at 6/1 :)

mathare
20th May 2010, 10:30
Thursday 20th May
3.40 Wetherby Two Left Boots
4.25 Southwell Capponi

mathare
21st May 2010, 10:22
Losers at 5/2 and 3/1 yesterday

Friday 21st May
3.10 Chepstow Hajoum
3.50 Catterick Mr Wolf
5.10 Chepstow Ogre

mathare
22nd May 2010, 11:53
Losers at 10/3, 11/4 and 9/2

Saturday 22nd May
2.45 Goodwood Managua
3.20 Goodwood Skysurfers
4.40 Haydock Peponi

mathare
23rd May 2010, 12:24
Losers at 11/1, 4/1 and 5/2

None for Sunday

mathare
24th May 2010, 12:05
Monday 24th May
3.00 Leicester Sophie's Beau
4.00 Leicester Seta
4.45 Carlisle Imperial Djay

mathare
25th May 2010, 11:52
Winners at 9/2 and 6/4 plus a loser at 5/1

Tuesday 25th May
4.20 Chepstow Silent Oasis

mathare
26th May 2010, 11:33
Silent Oasis lost at 11/4

Wednesday 26th May
3.50 Ayr Tillietudlem

mathare
27th May 2010, 10:43
Winner at 8/15

Thursday 27th May
4.40 Brighton Tom Wade

mathare
28th May 2010, 10:55
A loser at 5/1. Stats to come soon, I promise...

Friday 28th May
5.40 Newcastle Averoo

mathare
29th May 2010, 11:45
Averoo was a non-runner

Saturday 29th May
2.40 Beverley Trumpstoo
5.40 Newmarket According

mathare
30th May 2010, 11:41
Losers at 4/1 and 7/2

Sunday 30th May
2.30 Fontwell Wiesenfurst
4.10 Fontwell Kilshannig

mathare
31st May 2010, 11:35
Losers at 10/3 and 7/1

Monday 31st May
2.00 Goodwood Speed Gene
5.35 Leicester Contradiktive

mathare
31st May 2010, 12:05
At last, a stats update! :)

The table below is far from perfect but it will do as tables are a bit of a pig to get 100% right on this forum. It shows the figures for this system dating back to the start of 2008 (I will post a separate table of results for just those selections posted on this forum later) to three separate sets of prices: industry SP, SP+10% and Betfair SP. It's unrealistic to expect to be able to lay at industry SP which is why I include the SP+10% figures which offer a much more realistic view of the system's performance. The Betfair SP figures are included as a worst case scenario as layers should easily be able to beat those prices.

As you can see the ROI is pretty good for a lay system, 3.88% to Betfair SP and 5.41% to SP+10% for the recommended price bracket (3/1 to 13/2 or 4.40 to 8.60). Selections outside this range are profitable but analysis has shown that these price brackets offer the best return on investment.

Oh, and all results are to 1pt fixed level stakes.

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets122457812245781224541Winners100450510045051004469SR82.03%87.37%82.03%87.37%82.03%86.69%Profit180.51181.92103.18152.1333.60107.42ROI3.17%6.46%1.65%5.41%0.48%3.88%

mathare
31st May 2010, 12:11
Early days still but here are the stats for the selections that have been posted to this thread

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets221122112211Winners181018101810SR81.82%90.91%81.82%90.91%81.82%90.91%Profit3.075.001.664.550.894.20ROI3.32%9.85%1.64%8.96%0.81%7.66%

mathare
1st June 2010, 11:59
Losers yesterday at 8/1 and 9/2

Tuesday 1st June
3.30 Redcar Dream Win

mathare
2nd June 2010, 11:43
Dream Win a 4/1 loser

Wednesday 2nd June
3.10 Nottingham Admirable Duchess

mathare
3rd June 2010, 11:14
A 13/2 loser yesterday

Thursday 3rd June
4.00 Newton Abbot Eddie Dowling
5.00 Newton Abbot Cubism

mathare
3rd June 2010, 22:16
Losers at 7/1 and 9/2

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets281528152814Winners241424142413SR85.71%93.33%85.71%93.33%85.71%92.86%Profit8.778.807.368.356.597.05ROI6.92%12.18%5.28%11.56%4.28%9.76%

mathare
4th June 2010, 11:24
Friday 4th June
1.30 Wolverhampton Elsie Jo
4.05 Epsom Aviate
4.15 Catterick Nabari
5.15 Catterick Aqua Vitae

mathare
5th June 2010, 11:24
Losers at 7/2, 5/1 and 13/2 plus a NR

Saturday 5th June
3.40 Musselburgh Ziggy Lee
4.00 Epsom Jan Vermeer

mathare
5th June 2010, 23:18
Losers at 7/2 and 9/4

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets331933193318Winners291829182917SR87.88%94.74%87.88%94.74%87.88%94.44%Profit13.5212.6012.1112.1511.3410.85ROI9.16%13.61%7.47%13.12%6.37%11.56%

mathare
6th June 2010, 10:38
Sunday 6th June
2.30 Brighton What Katie Did
3.20 Southwell Somethin' Stupid
4.50 Southwell Efisio Princess

mathare
7th June 2010, 12:09
A NR, a 7/1 loser and a 6/1 winner, by a neck!

Monday 7th June
2.15 Folkestone Trailblazing
5.00 Newton Abbot Know Your Place

mathare
8th June 2010, 11:07
Losers at 4/1 and 17/2

Tuesday 8th June
5.30 Salisbury Haljaferia

mathare
9th June 2010, 12:09
Loser at 7/2

Wednesday 9th June
2.40 Yarmouth Macanta
3.10 Yarmouth Miss Kitty Grey
4.40 Yarmouth Mnarani
5.40 Yarmouth Guga

mathare
10th June 2010, 12:25
Losers at 5/1 and 6/1, winners at 9/4 and 5/2

Thursday 10th June
5.10 Nottingham Cheddar George
5.30 Yarmouth Allannah Abu
5.50 Newbury Sircozy

mathare
11th June 2010, 11:56
Losers at 15/2, 11/2 and 7/2

Friday 11th June
2.50 York Kindest
2.50 York Kinsya
3.25 York Deauville Flyer

mathare
12th June 2010, 11:54
Winners at 9/1 and 6/1 plus a loser at 13/2.

Saturday 12th June
2.05 York Spirit Is Needed
3.15 York Hoof It
3.50 York Rebel Soldier
5.15 Hexham Milano Supremo

mathare
13th June 2010, 12:01
Losers at 7/1, 17/2 and 7/4 plus a 3/1 winner

Nothing for Sunday so I'll give you a stats update instead

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets522952295227Winners422542254224SR80.77%86.21%80.77%86.21%80.77%88.89%Profit-2.884.25-7.162.30-8.704.70ROI-1.15%2.90%-2.60%1.57%-2.88%3.22%

mathare
15th June 2010, 11:00
Did I forget to post Monday's? :yikes::splapme

They were Indiana Gold in the 4.00 at Sedgefield (lost at 5/1) and Besty in the 4.15 at Carlisle (lost at 9/4), just for completeness.

Tuesday 15th June
4.25 Ascot Strong Suit
6.20 Thirsk Beat Baby

mathare
16th June 2010, 10:58
A winner at 15/8, a loser at 9/1

Wednesday 16th June
3.20 Worcester Domino Dancer
3.35 Hamilton Al Shababiya
4.35 Worcester Polyfast
5.10 Worcester Cannon Fire
6.15 Worcester Space Telescope

mathare
17th June 2010, 11:25
A NR, a winner at 11/8 and three losers (two at 10/3, one at 11/10)

None for Thursday

mathare
18th June 2010, 11:17
Friday 18th June
4.45 Musselburgh Planetarium
5.10 Redcar Ting Ting
5.40 Redcar Final Ovation

mathare
19th June 2010, 11:25
Two NRs and an 11/4 winner

Saturday 19th June
3.30 Ayr Lady Eclair
5.35 Ascot Sentry Duty

mathare
20th June 2010, 10:50
Losers at 2/1 and 4/1

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets633363336331Winners502950295028SR79.37%87.88%79.37%87.88%79.37%90.32%Profit-1.288.05-6.166.10-7.568.50ROI-0.45%4.92%-1.96%3.73%-2.21%5.18%

mathare
20th June 2010, 10:50
Sunday 20th June
2.40 Pontefract Catawollow
3.50 Hereford Fealing Real
5.50 Hereford One Of The Boys

mathare
21st June 2010, 10:56
Losers at 12/1 and 8/1, a winner at 9/4

Monday 21st June
3.45 Lingfield Sparkle Park

mathare
22nd June 2010, 11:03
A loser at 9/1

Nothing for Tuesday

mathare
23rd June 2010, 10:57
Wednesday 23rd June
4.00 Worcester The Jigsaw Man

mathare
24th June 2010, 10:04
A loser at 5/2

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets683368336831Winners542954295428SR79.41%87.88%79.41%87.88%79.41%90.32%Profit0.278.05-4.846.10-5.718.50ROI0.08%4.92%-1.37%3.73%-1.49%5.18%

mathare
25th June 2010, 12:30
I forgot yesterday's :splapme

They were:
3.10 Goodwood Seventh Hill
4.55 Goodwood Sarrsar

Losers at 9/1 and 3/1

mathare
25th June 2010, 12:30
Friday 25th June
4.25 Market Rasen Tempsford
4.25 Market Rasen De Luain Gorm

Win2Win
25th June 2010, 12:35
I forgot yesterday's :splapme

Your age catching up with mine then? :D

mathare
26th June 2010, 11:05
A 9/2 winner and a NR

Saturday 26th June
3.30 Windsor Cockney Class
4.45 Newcastle Judiciary

mathare
27th June 2010, 11:03
Losers at 10/1 and 7/2

Sunday 27th June
3.25 Windsor Con Artist
4.10 Salisbury Crown Prosecutor

mathare
28th June 2010, 10:41
Short-priced winners at 6/4 and 5/6

Monday 28th June
3.30 Wolverhampton Toolain

mathare
29th June 2010, 11:08
An odds-on winner at 2/5.

Nothing for Tuesday so I'll give you the latest stats for this thread instead:

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets763676367634Winners583158315830SR76.32%86.11%76.32%86.11%76.32%88.24%Profit-3.175.45-8.993.05-11.994.60ROI-0.90%3.10%-2.32%1.73%-2.83%2.59%

mathare
30th June 2010, 11:09
Wednesday 30th June
3.50 Perth Sheriff Hutton
4.10 Worcester Now This Is It

mathare
1st July 2010, 11:16
Loser at 4/1 and a winner at 13/8

Thursday 1st July
2.50 Perth Paddington Bob

mathare
2nd July 2010, 11:33
NR yesterday.

Nothing for Friday 2nd July

mathare
3rd July 2010, 11:12
Saturday 3rd July
4.50 Sandown Kakatosi

mathare
4th July 2010, 11:15
A winner at 2/1

Nothing for Sunday 4th July

mathare
5th July 2010, 10:44
Monday 5th July
2.15 Newton Abbot Maggie Aron
2.45 Newton Abbot Apartman

mathare
6th July 2010, 10:48
Losers at 10/11 and 4/1

Nothing for Tuesday 6th July

mathare
8th July 2010, 11:25
I forgot yesterday's again! :splapme

It was Cloudy City in the 3.20 at Catterick - it lost at 9/4

Thursday 8th July
3.55 Folkestone Pure Crystal

mathare
9th July 2010, 10:56
Loser at 10/1

Friday 9th July
3.00 Ascot Keenes Day
4.45 Ascot Qanoon

mathare
10th July 2010, 11:19
Losers at 10/1 and 6/4

Saturday 10th July
3.30 Ascot Dubai Bounty

mathare
11th July 2010, 12:23
NR yesterday

Sunday 11th July
2.00 Stratford Dorabelle
3.40 Perth Long Wait
4.20 Southwell Majestic Mayhem
4.50 Southwell Treasury Counsel

mathare
12th July 2010, 10:31
A loser at 9/4 and three losers at 7/2

Nothing for Monday 12th July

mathare
13th July 2010, 10:56
Tuesday 13th July
2.00 Beverley Novalist
3.30 Beverley Tillietudlem

mathare
14th July 2010, 10:50
Losers at 4/1 and 15/8

I suppose a few stats are due now really aren't they?

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets914291429140Winners713771377136SR78.02%88.10%78.02%88.10%78.02%90.00%Profit5.5611.15-0.638.75-3.3310.30ROI1.36%5.56%-0.14%4.36%-0.68%5.08%

mathare
14th July 2010, 10:51
Wednesday 14th July
2.20 Catterick Spartic
3.10 Uttoxeter Mad Jack Duncan

Jammey
14th July 2010, 13:39
brilliant mathare:wink::thumbs could you please recommend some lay systems i could buy.thanks again,jammey

mathare
15th July 2010, 11:51
Loser at 5/2 and a winner at 2/1 yesterday

Thursday 15th July
2.50 Hamilton The Bear
4.35 Hamilton Geojimali
4.50 Cartmel Cannon Fire

mathare
16th July 2010, 12:27
Losers at 7/2, 14/1 and 4/1 yesterday

Friday 16th July
3.55 Nottingham Mejd

mathare
17th July 2010, 11:01
5/1 loser yesterday

Saturday 17th July
3.25 Ripon Mushreq

mathare
19th July 2010, 11:30
Mushreq lost at 7/2 and there was nothing yesterday.

Monday 19th July
2.45 Yarmouth Sixty Roses
3.30 Ayr Amity

mathare
20th July 2010, 12:13
Losers at 2/1 and 10/1

Tuesday 20th July
3.15 Yarmouth Albacocca
4.30 Ffos Las Signore Momento

mathare
21st July 2010, 11:03
Winners at 13/2 and 7/2

Wednesday 21st July
2.20 Worcester Makena
3.20 Worcester Alfadora
4.50 Worcester Crimson Canyon

mathare
22nd July 2010, 11:16
A 5/2 winner plus losers at 11/8 and 4/1

None for Thursday 22nd July

mathare
23rd July 2010, 11:35
Friday 23rd July
2.55 Southwell Gabreselassie
4.40 Southwell Pool Of Knowledge
5.30 Thirsk Blessed Place

mathare
24th July 2010, 11:56
Winner at 11/10 plus losers at 9/2 and 17/2

Saturday 24th July
2.05 Ascot Toolain
2.30 York Akhmatova
3.50 Ascot Tagseed

mathare
25th July 2010, 11:51
An 11/4 winner and losers at 5/1 and 9/1

mathare
25th July 2010, 11:52
Sunday 25th July
3.00 Carlisle More Than Many
3.50 Pontefract Zacinto

mathare
26th July 2010, 11:06
Losers at 8/1 and 15/8

Monday 26th July
2.15 Yarmouth Black Baccara
5.30 Wolverhampton Mme De Stael

mathare
27th July 2010, 11:39
Losers at 5/1 and 4/6.

Nothing for Tuesday 27th so I'll give a stats update instead...

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets115521155211550Winners894589458944SR77.39%86.54%77.39%86.54%77.39%88.00%Profit4.318.75-3.725.35-7.966.17ROI0.83%3.51%-0.65%2.14%-1.27%2.41%

mathare
28th July 2010, 11:28
Wednesday 28th July
2.55 Perth Apt To Run
4.20 Redcar Ballinteni

mathare
29th July 2010, 11:02
A NR and a loser at 10/11 yesterday

Thursday 29th July
3.45 Nottingham Epic

mathare
30th July 2010, 10:53
Epic a loser at 5/1

Friday 30th July
2.35 Bangor King Ozzy
3.25 Goodwood Sea Lord
3.45 Bangor Totoman
4.45 Thirsk Caranbola

mathare
31st July 2010, 11:24
A 6/1 winner (that was much bigger on the exchanges but still within my cutoffs for this system!) and losers at 3/1, 6/4 and 20/1 so a pretty poor day all in all.

Nothing for Saturday 31st July

mathare
1st August 2010, 12:44
Sunday 1st August
2.45 Newbury Sula Two
5.10 Chester Dubai Bounty

mathare
2nd August 2010, 11:18
A setback yesterday with both selections winning at 9/2. Oh well, that's laying for ya!

Monday 2nd August
3.00 Newton Abbot El Batal
3.30 Newton Abbot Dreamwalk

mathare
3rd August 2010, 11:17
Losers at 7/1 and 9/2

Tuesday 3rd August
2.45 Chepstow Jasmeno

mathare
4th August 2010, 10:52
A loser at 10/3 yesterday

Wednesday 4th August
2.50 Newcastle Malgoof
3.40 Pontefract Chilly Filly
5.20 Newcastle Nicholas Pocock

mathare
5th August 2010, 10:48
A winner at 11/4 and losers at 3/1 and 5/4

Thursday 5th August
4.10 Haydock Activate
5.25 Yarmouth Fuzzypeg

mathare
6th August 2010, 10:43
A loser at 4/1 and an 8/1 winner which was outside my cutoff

Friday 6th August
4.30 Brighton Vilnius

mathare
7th August 2010, 11:41
7/1 loser yesterday

Saturday 7th August
4.35 Haydock Harry Patch

mathare
8th August 2010, 11:33
8/1 loser yesterday

Sunday 8th August
3.20 Leicester Poppy Seed
4.00 Windsor Sandy Shaw

mathare
9th August 2010, 10:32
Both selections were non-runners yesterday

Monday 9th August
3.30 Southwell Star Twilight
3.45 Wolverhampton Screenprint

mathare
10th August 2010, 11:08
Losers at 5/1 and 5/2

Tuesday 10th August
4.15 Newton Abbot Dunkelly Castle

mathare
11th August 2010, 10:41
A loser at 7/2 yesterday

Wednesday 11th August
3.25 Yarmouth Lordship
5.10 Salisbury Song To The Moon
5.35 Yarmouth Kathleen Frances

mathare
12th August 2010, 10:37
A 7/2 winner plus losers at 9/1 and 7/1

This system has been going through a rough spell of late but I am persevering all the same. Here are the latest stats ahead of today's bets:

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets139641396413961Winners107531075310751SR76.98%82.81%76.98%82.81%76.98%83.61%Profit-7.84-2.15-18.79-7.40-26.14-10.23ROI-1.22%-0.71%-2.66%-2.43%-3.20%-3.27%

Thursday 12th August
4.15 Salisbury Hearts Of Fire
4.25 Beverley Dark Dune

mathare
13th August 2010, 11:08
Losers at 5/2 and 7/1

Friday 13th August
3.10 Newbury Mountain Hiker

mathare
14th August 2010, 10:55
Non-runner yesterday

Saturday 14th August
4.15 Newbury Jivry

mathare
15th August 2010, 11:43
Yesterday's selection was a 10/3 loser

Sunday 15th August
2.40 Pontefract Roxy Flyer
4.40 Pontefract Sunbow

mathare
16th August 2010, 10:52
Yesterday's selections both lost, at 10/3 and 4/5 respectively

Monday 16th August
2.15 Wolverhampton Burnt Cream
3.00 Kempton Flower Fairy

mathare
17th August 2010, 10:44
An 8/1 loser and a winner at evens yesterday

Nothing for Tuesday 17th August

mathare
18th August 2010, 11:07
Wednesday 18th August
4.25 Carlisle Gee Major
4.50 Hamilton Epic
5.20 Hamilton Short Supply

mathare
19th August 2010, 10:46
A winner at 5/2 and losers at 7/2 and 9/2

Thursday 19th August
2.50 York Capponi

mathare
20th August 2010, 10:55
Capponi lost at 9/2

Friday 20th August
1.55 Bangor Leitra House
3.40 Bangor Truxton King
4.15 Bangor De Soto

mathare
21st August 2010, 11:44
Losers at 11/4, 9/1 and 7/1

Saturday 21st August
3.30 Perth King Roonah
4.00 Perth Cape Secret

mathare
22nd August 2010, 11:26
Losers at 3/1 and 7/2 yesterday

Sunday 22nd August
3.20 Musselburgh Cat O' Nine Tails

mathare
23rd August 2010, 11:20
4/1 winner yesterday :(

Monday 23rd August
3.15 Kempton Aldo

mathare
24th August 2010, 11:31
Aldo was an 11/1 loser

Tuesday 24th August
4.00 Yarmouth Nelson's Bounty

mathare
25th August 2010, 10:56
A 5/2 winner yesterday

Wednesday 25th August
3.30 Brighton Honoured
4.50 Catterick Always Dixie

mathare
26th August 2010, 11:55
Losers at 7/4 and 11/2

Thursday 26th August
4.50 Ffos Las La Concorde

mathare
26th August 2010, 11:55
Losers at 7/4 and 11/2

Thursday 26th August
4.50 Ffos Las La Concorde

mathare
27th August 2010, 10:51
La Concorde lost at evens

Friday 27th August
3.40 Ffos Las Herculean

mathare
28th August 2010, 10:26
A 7/2 winner yesterday

Saturday 28th August
2.25 Beverley Guest Book
5.15 Beverley Kiama Bay

mathare
29th August 2010, 11:45
Yesterday gave us a 4/1 loser and a NR

Sunday 29th August
3.45 Yarmouth Wear 'em Out Wilf
5.05 Goodwood Innocuous
5.30 Yarmouth Fuzzypeg

mathare
30th August 2010, 11:42
A 4/1 winner, 2/1 loser and a NR

Monday 30th August
3.55 Warwick Marie De Guise
4.00 Newcastle Chin'n Tonic
4.30 Warwick Albeed
4.55 Epsom Blues Music

mathare
31st August 2010, 10:24
All of yesterday's selections lost, at prices between 11/4 and 4/1

Nothing for Tuesday 31st August so you can have some rather unimpressive stats instead

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets169791697916976Winners131651316513163SR77.51%82.28%77.51%82.28%77.51%82.89%Profit-2.54-2.25-15.24-8.65-23.04-11.51ROI-0.33%-0.61%-1.82%-2.35%-2.40%-3.04%

mathare
1st September 2010, 11:59
Wednesday 1st September
3.10 Hereford Tegan Lee
3.20 Lingfield Bravo Bravo

mathare
2nd September 2010, 11:06
A 9/2 loser and a 7/2 winner

Thursday 2nd September
3.40 Redcar Right Grand
4.15 Redcar Romancea
4.35 Epsom Baralaka

mathare
3rd September 2010, 10:34
An 11/4 winner and losers at 5/1 and 6/1

Friday 3rd September
2.20 Lingfield Winnie Dixie
4.10 Musselburgh Fox Hunt
4.50 Lingfield Paphos

mathare
4th September 2010, 12:20
Losers at 11/4 and 2/1, winner at 7/4

Saturday 4th September
2.00 Haydock Awzaan
3.05 Haydock Kansai Spirit

mathare
5th September 2010, 12:01
A 7/1 loser and a 4/1 winner

Sunday 5th September
2.25 Worcester North Island
3.00 Worcester Plenty Of Chat

mathare
6th September 2010, 11:54
Losers at 10/1 and 6/5

Monday 6th September
3.10 Bath Yurituni
3.40 Bath Sayyedati Storm

mathare
7th September 2010, 11:33
Losers at 6/1 and 4/1

Tuesday 7th September
3.55 Lingfield Wear 'em Out Wilf
4.55 Goodwood Daboos

mathare
8th September 2010, 10:44
Both non-runners yesterday

Wednesday 8th September
3.30 Uttoxeter Mad Moose
5.40 Uttoxeter Quaddick Lake

mathare
9th September 2010, 10:52
Losers at 7/2 and 7/1

Thursday 9th September
3.00 Epsom Fists And Stones
4.45 Epsom Leelu

mathare
10th September 2010, 12:30
Losers at 5/2 and 3/1

Friday 10th September
4.00 Sandown Nelson's Bounty
4.35 Sandown Pink Palace
4.55 Doncaster Willing Foe

mathare
11th September 2010, 11:02
Losers at 9/2 and 16/1 plus a 7/2 winner

Saturday 11th September
3.00 Goodwood Mirror Lake
4.05 Goodwood Kathleen Frances

mathare
11th September 2010, 11:02
Losers at 9/2 and 16/1 plus a 7/2 winner

Saturday 11th September
3.00 Goodwood Mirror Lake
4.05 Goodwood Kathleen Frances

mathare
12th September 2010, 14:14
Results etc can wait till I am back off my holiday - I'm wasting valuable drinking/perving time at the minute

Sunday 12th September
3.10 Goodwood Call To Reason
4.55 Goodwood Regal Park
5.30 Goodwood Sailorman

scoobydoo
12th September 2010, 14:22
Results etc can wait till I am back off my holiday - I'm wasting valuable drinking/perving time at the minute


We need more information than this, weather report, type of drinks, sizes & shapes
...oh :censored: it pictures man!!!! :smile:

mathare
12th September 2010, 20:01
We need more information than this, weather report, type of drinks, sizes & shapes
...oh :censored: it pictures man!!!! :smile:Clear blue sky, around 27 degrees, sunny. Apartment is very nice with free wi-fi. Beach is crowded but I don't care for beaches too much. Plenty of totty about. Local beer is decent and plentiful. You'll have to make with that for now, pictures may follow eventually.

scoobydoo
12th September 2010, 21:45
Clear blue sky, around 27 degrees, sunny. Apartment is very nice with free wi-fi. Beach is crowded but I don't care for beaches too much. Plenty of totty about. Local beer is decent and plentiful. You'll have to make with that for now, pictures may follow eventually.

Nice one. I wonder how many times this holiday your ears will hear, "Mat get off that :censored: laptop"! :biggrin:
It has turned cool here today, you'll be glad to know. Oh & Liverpool are still pants. :thumbs

mathare
13th September 2010, 10:40
Monday 13th September
3.20 Musselburgh Cat O' Nine Tails

mathare
14th September 2010, 10:39
None for Tuesday 14th September

mathare
15th September 2010, 10:58
Wednesday 15th September
3.55 Yarmouth Nouriya
5.30 Yarmouth French Fantasy

mathare
16th September 2010, 11:16
Thursday 16th September
4.00 Pontefract Ardent

mathare
17th September 2010, 10:27
Friday 17th September
5.30 Newbury Grey Bunting

mathare
18th September 2010, 11:02
Saturday 18th September
2.15 Ayr Definightly

mathare
19th September 2010, 11:02
Sunday 19th September
2.40 Hamilton Ming Meng
4.10 Hamilton Cat O' Nine Tails
5.20 Uttoxeter Auberge

mathare
20th September 2010, 10:53
Monday 20th September
3.20 Leicester La Fortunata

mathare
21st September 2010, 10:55
Tuesday 21st September
4.50 Folkestone Sentosa
5.30 Beverley Kingdom Of Munster

mathare
22nd September 2010, 12:56
Wednesday 22nd September
3.35 Perth Cappagh
5.10 Redcar Free As A Lark
5.20 Perth Mad Moose

mathare
23rd September 2010, 11:29
Thursday 23rd September
3.50 Perth Regal Lyric
4.20 Perth Reportage
4.20 Perth Vinnes Friend
4.40 Fontwell Nono Le Sage
5.10 Fontwell I Can Run Can You

mathare
24th September 2010, 11:44
Friday 24th September
4.20 Ascot Bronze Prince
5.15 Worcester Novikov

mathare
25th September 2010, 12:06
Saturday 25th September
3.55 Market Rasen Thai Vango
4.55 Haydock William Van Gogh
5.30 Haydock Tariq Too

mathare
27th September 2010, 11:10
There was nothing doing yesterday as I couldn't get all the data I need to run the system so we had to skip a day. Ah well.

Monday 27th September
2.40 Kempton Fimias
3.40 Kempton Isobar
4.20 Ffos Las Cotton Mill
4.40 Kempton Daboos

mathare
28th September 2010, 11:19
Tuesday 28th September
2.10 Brighton Owain
2.25 Sedgefield Southerness
3.00 Sedgefield Shopfrontspecialst
4.45 Sedgefield Rebel Hunter
5.30 Newbury Conduct

I'll post up some results/stats at some point soon too, promise. They're not really worth waiting for though :ermmm

mathare
29th September 2010, 11:47
Nothing for Wednesday 29th September

mathare
30th September 2010, 11:24
Thursday 30th September
5.05 Warwick Tricky Situation
6.10 Warwick Kenyan Cat

mathare
1st October 2010, 10:40
Friday 1st October
1.25 Newmarket Look At Me
2.10 Hexham Totoman
3.05 Newmarket Dream Ahead

mathare
1st October 2010, 14:53
I told you these stats weren't really worth waiting for, but they are correct to the end of September at least

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets230109230109230104Winners179881798817985SR77.83%80.73%77.83%80.73%77.83%81.73%Profit1.81-8.40-15.02-17.60-24.22-18.95ROI0.18%-1.66%-1.33%-3.47%-1.91%-3.65%

mathare
2nd October 2010, 11:38
Saturday 2nd October
3.00 Newmarket Sahpresa
3.50 Epsom Makeynn
4.15 Newmarket Wafeira
4.35 Redcar Kingsfort
5.25 Newmarket Dhaamer
6.15 Redcar True To Form

mathare
3rd October 2010, 12:04
Sunday 3rd October
5.10 Uttoxeter Kilmore West
5.10 Uttoxeter Pinerock
5.40 Uttoxeter Mischief Man
5.55 Huntingdon Mista Rossa

mathare
4th October 2010, 11:24
Monday 4th October
3.00 Windsor Gift Of Love
3.00 Windsor Norville
4.50 Warwick Realisation

mathare
5th October 2010, 10:50
Tuesday 5th October
4.00 Catterick Regimental
5.00 Catterick Consult
5.10 Leicester Sapperton

mathare
6th October 2010, 11:02
Wednesday 6th October
3.50 Ludlow Fool's Wildcat
4.50 Ludlow Caracal

mathare
7th October 2010, 11:20
Thursday 7th October
3.10 Worcester Tanmeya
3.35 Exeter Son Histoire
3.45 Worcester Sea Cliff

mathare
8th October 2010, 12:47
Friday 8th October
4.05 Musselburgh Tobernea
5.10 Musselburgh Lord Aeryn

mathare
9th October 2010, 14:12
Saturday 9th October
2.55 Bangor-on-dee Rebel Dancer
3.40 Ascot Vulcanite
4.15 Ascot Toolain
4.35 Chepstow Earth Dream
4.40 Bangor-on-dee Ballydub
5.10 Chepstow Gullible Gordon
5.50 Bangor-on-dee Fiddlededee

mathare
10th October 2010, 12:35
Sunday 10th October
2.00 Goodwood Zelos Diktator
4.10 Bath Yurituni
5.05 Ffos Las Calypso Bay
5.20 Bath Jasmeno

mathare
11th October 2010, 10:56
Monday 11th October
3.35 Windsor Bathwick Xaara
5.20 Salisbury Isobar

mathare
12th October 2010, 10:42
Tuesday 12th October
2.20 Huntingdon Teenage Kicks
2.50 Huntingdon Rebel Hunter
5.40 Leicester Bajan Flash

mathare
13th October 2010, 10:57
Wednesday 13th October
2.20 Wetherby Manxman
2.50 Wetherby Archie's Wish
3.15 Uttoxeter Portrait Royale
3.45 Uttoxeter Ackertac

mathare
14th October 2010, 14:01
Thursday 14th October
3.20 Wincanton Prince Tom
4.00 Brighton Momkinzain

mathare
15th October 2010, 10:52
Friday 15th October
3.20 Cheltenham Battle Group
4.20 Redcar Tobernea
5.05 Cheltenham King Roonah

mathare
16th October 2010, 11:58
Saturday 16th October
1.45 Catterick Eijaaz
3.40 Newmarket Universal Truth
4.25 Cheltenham Scampi Boy

mathare
17th October 2010, 11:20
Sunday 17th October
5.20 Newcastle Ezra Church

mathare
18th October 2010, 10:51
Monday 18th October
4.30 Windsor April Fool
4.50 Plumpton Firm Order
5.50 Plumpton Border Station

mathare
19th October 2010, 10:54
Nothing for Tuesday 19th October

mathare
20th October 2010, 11:39
Wednesday 20th October
2.40 Worcester Whereveryougoigo
2.50 Fontwell O'callaghan Strand
2.50 Fontwell She Is A Cracker
4.20 Worcester Kilmore West
4.55 Worcester Another Trump
5.20 Ffos Las Officer In Command

mathare
21st October 2010, 10:44
Thursday 21st October
3.15 Ludlow National Trust
3.25 Carlisle Tara Royal
4.15 Ludlow Macs Lad
4.50 Ludlow Thievery

mathare
22nd October 2010, 11:07
Friday 22nd October
5.05 Doncaster Dark Promise

mathare
23rd October 2010, 10:46
Saturday 23rd October
2.10 Aintree Mille Chief
4.10 Chepstow Duke Of Lucca
4.10 Chepstow Pistolet Noir
4.35 Aintree Our Jasper
5.20 Chepstow Maidstone Mixture

mathare
24th October 2010, 11:25
Sunday 24th October
1.30 Towcester Tullyraine
3.20 Aintree Solway Sam
3.55 Aintree Ockey De Neulliac

mathare
25th October 2010, 12:06
Monday 25th October
3.20 Southwell Guga
3.30 Leicester Medicinal Compound
4.20 Southwell Powerful Melody

barrelmaniac
25th October 2010, 19:01
Hi Mathare, any chance of an update on the figures when you get time

mathare
25th October 2010, 19:22
Hi Mathare, any chance of an update on the figures when you get timeSure thing. I was planning to wait till the end of the month but now is a good time to do one so why not? Including today's lays:

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets307150307150307143Winners249125249125249120SR81.11%83.33%81.11%83.33%81.11%83.92%Profit39.738.2520.04-2.808.88-6.92ROI2.84%1.14%1.30%-0.39%0.52%-0.94%

So not quite back in the black but getting back up there, steadily

mathare
26th October 2010, 10:48
Tuesday 26th October
3.20 Catterick Lady Bluesky

barrelmaniac
26th October 2010, 22:31
well don matt, keep up the good work, its been a hard slog back but looks like you are getting there now

mathare
28th October 2010, 11:02
There were no Premier Lays yesterday but I forgot to update this thread to mention that fact. There are a few today though...

Thursday 28th October
3.20 Stratford Volcanic Rock
4.00 Fontwell Panzer
4.20 Stratford Tell Massini

mathare
29th October 2010, 11:14
Friday 29th October
3.20 Wetherby Neptune Equester
3.55 Wetherby Domtaline
5.05 Wetherby Lady De La Vega
5.20 Newmarket Saborido

mathare
30th October 2010, 11:03
Saturday 30th October
3.40 Ascot From Dawn To Dusk
4.20 Newmarket Timepiece
5.10 Wetherby Peter Grimes

mathare
31st October 2010, 13:36
Sunday 31st October
1.00 Carlisle Tiptoeaway
1.30 Carlisle Bardolet
1.30 Carlisle The Rustlin Rhino
2.50 Lingfield Herostatus
3.35 Huntingdon Buds Dilemma
4.05 Huntingdon Amuse Me

mathare
31st October 2010, 20:12
End of month stats:

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets323155323155323148Winners258129258129258124SR79.88%83.23%79.88%83.23%79.88%83.78%Profit23.707.051.56-4.50-11.40-8.09ROI1.61%0.94%0.10%-0.60%-0.64%-1.06%

A slight slip back on the stats from a few days back but a hell of a lot more attractive than September's were. Still in the red admittedly but moving in the right direction nonetheless

mathare
1st November 2010, 12:46
Monday 1st November
12.50 Plumpton Brackloon High
1.30 Kempton Dusky Bob
2.05 Kempton Forget It
3.10 Kempton Riverside Theatre
3.45 Kempton Victory Surge

mathare
2nd November 2010, 12:07
Tuesday 2nd November
1.35 Exeter Mr Hudson
4.05 Exeter Prince Tom

mathare
3rd November 2010, 11:43
Wednesday 3rd November
2.00 Warwick Corredor Sun
3.20 Chepstow Pavillon Bleu

mathare
4th November 2010, 12:07
Thursday 4th November
12.55 Haydock Admiral Dundas
2.30 Lingfield Ritual
2.55 Towcester Mister Hyde

mathare
5th November 2010, 12:39
Friday 5th November
2.50 Fontwell Stoney's Treasure
3.20 Fontwell Amuse Me
3.40 Hexham Reckless Venture
4.00 Southwell Mexican Jay
4.10 Hexham Duke Of Malfi

mathare
6th November 2010, 12:42
Saturday 6th November
12.45 Sandown Slew Charm
1.15 Sandown Pepe Simo
1.40 Wincanton Kerada
3.10 Doncaster Senate
3.20 Wincanton The Package

mathare
7th November 2010, 11:54
Sunday 7th November
1.40 Ffos Las Round Tom
2.55 Market Rasen Diaco
3.20 Ffos Las Cool Mission

mathare
7th November 2010, 11:54
Sunday 7th November
1.40 Ffos Las Round Tom
2.55 Market Rasen Diaco
3.20 Ffos Las Cool Mission

mathare
8th November 2010, 10:52
Monday 8th November
12.50 Carlisle Dove Hill
2.25 Carlisle Diamond Frontier
3.30 Carlisle Canal Bank

mathare
9th November 2010, 10:46
Tuesday 9th November
1.20 Exeter Highland Valley
2.30 Sedgefield Hollo Ladies
2.40 Lingfield Mr Bond
3.00 Sedgefield King O'the Gypsies
3.20 Exeter Robbers Bridge
3.40 Lingfield Sagredo

mathare
10th November 2010, 11:22
Wednesday 10th November
1.40 Bangor Rock Noir
3.10 Bangor Scoter Fontaine
3.20 Huntingdon Just The Job

mathare
11th November 2010, 10:56
Thursday 11th November
1.10 Taunton Am I Blue
2.00 Ludlow Key Cutter

mathare
12th November 2010, 11:18
Friday 12th November
2.25 Cheltenham Keelaghan
3.00 Cheltenham Garde Champetre
3.35 Cheltenham Aegean Dawn

mathare
13th November 2010, 11:34
Saturday 13th November
12.40 Uttoxeter Marleno
1.15 Wetherby Dorabelle
1.40 Uttoxeter Vivarini
2.35 Cheltenham Long Run
2.45 Uttoxeter Ayemdee
3.10 Cheltenham Ackertac

mathare
14th November 2010, 11:36
Sunday 14th November
12.20 Fontwell O'callaghan Strand
12.50 Fontwell Isintshelovely
1.10 Cheltenham Loosen My Load

mathare
15th November 2010, 10:49
None for Monday 15th November

mathare
16th November 2010, 10:27
Tuesday 16th November
12.40 Folkestone Pepite Rose
1.10 Folkestone Vesey Lodge
1.30 Fakenham Gavroche Gaugain
2.10 Folkestone Ocean Transit
2.30 Fakenham Plunkett
3.00 Fakenham Nautical Approach
3.30 Fakenham Luthien

mathare
17th November 2010, 10:28
Wednesday 17th November
1.00 Warwick Salpierre
1.30 Warwick Karasakal
2.00 Warwick Don't Turn Bach
2.40 Hexham Belon Gale
3.30 Warwick Miss Fleur

mathare
18th November 2010, 10:44
Thursday 18th November
1.20 Wincanton Perception
1.40 Market Rasen Hollo Ladies
2.20 Wincanton Vico
3.40 Market Rasen Grand Award

mathare
19th November 2010, 10:53
Friday 19th November
12.25 Musselburgh Beat The Band
1.00 Ascot Sprinter Sacre
1.15 Exeter Sangfroid
1.25 Musselburgh Double Expresso
1.35 Ascot Master Of The Hall
2.25 Exeter Diamond Brook
2.45 Ascot Enlightenment
3.10 Musselburgh Go Silver Bullet
3.35 Exeter Arrayan

mathare
20th November 2010, 11:24
Saturday 20th November
12.20 Ascot Rebel Rebellion
2.35 Ascot Zaynar

mathare
21st November 2010, 11:53
Sunday 21st November
1.45 Aintree Hello Bud
1.45 Aintree Maljimar
1.45 Aintree Merigo
3.05 Kelso Identity Parade

mathare
22nd November 2010, 10:46
Monday 22nd November
2.25 Ffos Las Take It There
3.00 Ffos Las Kilcrea Kim

mathare
23rd November 2010, 10:57
Tuesday 23rd November
3.00 Sedgefield Matmata De Tendron

mathare
24th November 2010, 12:36
Wednesday 24th November
3.15 Lingfield Room For A View
3.45 Lingfield Buona Sarah
3.55 Chepstow Tiger Line

mathare
25th November 2010, 11:27
Thursday 25th November
12.40 Taunton If I Had Him
1.35 Newbury Finian's Rainbow
2.45 Newbury Rajamand
3.30 Taunton Extra Bold
3.40 Uttoxeter Jan Jandura

mathare
26th November 2010, 10:48
Friday 26th November
1.15 Musselburgh Heavenly Chorus
1.50 Musselburgh Jago River
3.30 Musselburgh Pompan

mathare
27th November 2010, 11:28
Saturday 27th November
12.55 Newbury Rustarix
2.10 Kempton Colour Scheme
3.05 Newbury Denman

mathare
28th November 2010, 12:14
Sunday 28th November
5.20 Kempton Delaware Dancer

mathare
29th November 2010, 11:13
Monday 29th November
12.25 Folkestone L'homme De Nuit
12.55 Folkestone American Trilogy
2.35 Folkestone Kaybeew

mathare
30th November 2010, 11:00
Tuesday 30th November
12.45 Lingfield Defence Of Realm
1.00 Southwell Beyaz Villas
1.30 Southwell Fashionable Gal

mathare
1st December 2010, 12:26
None for Wednesday 1st December

mathare
2nd December 2010, 11:02
I forgot to do a stats update the other day so here are the figures correct to the end of November

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets424206424206424202Winners331170331170331167SR78.07%82.52%78.07%82.52%78.07%82.67%Profit17.412.50-12.29-13.40-29.29-25.70ROI0.95%0.25%-0.61%-1.36%-1.32%-2.49%

mathare
2nd December 2010, 11:02
I forgot to do a stats update the other day so here are the figures correct to the end of November

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets424206424206424202Winners331170331170331167SR78.07%82.52%78.07%82.52%78.07%82.67%Profit17.412.50-12.29-13.40-29.29-25.70ROI0.95%0.25%-0.61%-1.36%-1.32%-2.49%

mathare
2nd December 2010, 11:03
Thursday 2nd December
4.30 Wolverhampton Bill Page

mathare
3rd December 2010, 11:15
Nothing for Friday 3rd December

mathare
4th December 2010, 11:27
Nothing for Saturday 4th December either

mathare
5th December 2010, 11:29
Sunday 5th December
12.50 Exeter Sanctuaire
1.50 Exeter Teeming Rain
2.20 Exeter Holyrood

mathare
6th December 2010, 10:49
None for Monday 6th December

mathare
7th December 2010, 11:18
Tuesday 7th December
1.50 Lingfield Zeavola
2.00 Southwell Mediterranean Sea

mathare
8th December 2010, 12:05
Wednesday 8th December
2.10 Lingfield Relative Strength

mathare
9th December 2010, 13:35
None for Thursday 9th December

mathare
10th December 2010, 10:30
Friday 10th December
12.10 Cheltenham Spirit River
1.15 Cheltenham Font
1.15 Cheltenham Ravethebrave
3.00 Cheltenham Garde Champetre

mathare
11th December 2010, 11:50
Saturday 11th December
1.55 Cheltenham Master Minded
3.05 Cheltenham Cue Card
3.30 Southwell Trachonitis
3.40 Cheltenham Mossley

mathare
13th December 2010, 11:49
There was nothing for yesterday in case you were wondering

Monday 13th December
1.35 Plumpton Medermit

mathare
14th December 2010, 10:51
Tuesday 14th December
12.35 Folkestone Sire De Grugy
1.15 Catterick Carpincho
2.05 Folkestone Watergate
2.15 Catterick Calypso Bay
2.35 Folkestone Carrickboy

mathare
15th December 2010, 11:49
Wednesday 15th December
12.25 Newbury Promising Anshan
12.55 Newbury Minella Class

mathare
16th December 2010, 11:16
Thursday 16th December
1.10 Towcester Aztec Treasure
1.20 Exeter Present To You
1.40 Towcester Taketimeout
2.10 Towcester Bobby Gee
2.20 Exeter Scoter Fontaine

mathare
17th December 2010, 11:12
None for Friday 17th December, which is probably just as well the way things have been going of late

mathare
18th December 2010, 11:15
With only Southwell surviving it's hardly a surprise that there are no lays for Saturday 18th December

mathare
21st December 2010, 11:01
Tuesday 21st December
1.20 Kempton Dark Lover
1.50 Kempton Vertige Dore
2.20 Kempton Wade Farm Billy

mathare
22nd December 2010, 10:28
Wednesday 22nd December
1.05 Lingfield Until The Man
1.35 Lingfield D'artagnan
3.20 Southwell Priceless Art

mathare
27th December 2010, 12:02
Monday 27th December
12.45 Southwell Heresellie

mathare
28th December 2010, 11:45
Tuesday 28th December
1.55 Southwell Cloudy Spirit
3.35 Southwell First Rock

mathare
29th December 2010, 12:18
Wednesday 29th December
2.10 Newbury Al Ferof

mathare
30th December 2010, 11:34
Thursday 30th December
12.45 Taunton I'm In The Pink
1.15 Taunton Iolith
1.50 Taunton Douryna
4.00 Taunton Shacklesborough

Incidentally tomorrow will be the last day I will be posting these qualifiers here. They haven't worked out as well as I had hoped so there seems little point persevering with them

mathare
31st December 2010, 11:11
Friday 31st December
12.50 Warwick Monsieur Cadou
1.50 Warwick Rock Noir
3.10 Uttoxeter Paradise Expected
3.30 Lingfield Estonia

mathare
3rd January 2011, 13:52
Just to close this off then, here are the stats for the qualifiers posted to the forum

.Industry SP.Industry SP+10%.Betfair SP..All3/1-13/2All3/1-13/2All4.40-8.60Bets467225467225467219Winners361183361183361179SR77.30%81.33%77.30%81.33%77.30%81.74%Profit9.54-11.48-23.80-30.02-42.95-41.59ROI0.47%-1.06%-1.07%-2.78%-1.77%-3.71%

It should be obvious why I decided to can this thread :thumbsdown: