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    The Betting Insider Review

    I came across this site some months ago, and as always I like to give things a 3-4 month run before passing on any good or bad information.

    The service is run by a guy named Terry, and he answers emails, unlike some other services I know of. A PDF eBook is supplied once a month, which is what you pay for, but the cost also includes the qualifiers for a free Lay system you get during weekdays via email.

    So what is the service? Basically, Terry reviews betting services, system eBooks, etc, and gives you a review of a few of them each month. The bottom line is he saves you money by pointing out the good from the bad. Heís never mentioned Derek Thompsonís tipping service though, but then we all know how good that is (not)!!!

    Each month the PDF is delivered via email, and contains around 5 reviews, free system stats update, and the Profit Wall: A list of past reviews categorised into Good, Bad, and Maybe!

    The reviews do a good job of passing on as much information as possible without giving any secrets out when reviewing systems. He usually tells you what the sales jargon is, and then gives you the bottom line.

    Most services reviewed you will never have heard of, as obviously once youíve found Win2Win you donít need to go anywhere else!!! 

    All sports are covered, not just horse racing, although the majority are for donkey betting.

    I do have one niggle with it, it would be nice to see monthly, or at least quarterly updates on the services just to make sure they are doing what they should. Iím aware this is a big job for one guy.

    Saying that, it still gives you a general idea of most of the services, and will save you the subscription cost if you are one of those people who keep trying everything, and getting nowhere.

    So what about the free system included? This is a Lay system, but full rules supplied, and I've been running the Lays around 4 months now.

    I started with a £200 test bank, staking 1.5% Fixed Stake, and this got to just over £500 before a terrible run, which as good as wiped the bank out. Because I switched to paper trading I saved 35% of the bank, but as the majority of punters would give up here, and go elsewhere, those who understand gambling know that is totally the wrong way to handle a broken bank. When you first start any betting bank, it is at higher risk then, than at any other time, as long as you are using risk management to add protection as the profits grow that is.

    Anyway, Bank 2 now stands at £1,077.67, although Iíve had a three of decent priced winners lately which put a bit of a dent in it, the SR is still holding well. The bank has peaked at £1,268.43

    Now if you are not a pro or semi-pro, best advice is that if you double your bank, withdraw the initial bank value, and start again. That way you can never effectively lose anything. If you do that, you are giving yourself an edge over 99% of other punters who would never consider doing that because of greed, and it is greed that keeps the majority of punters chasing there tail.

    Strike rate is a solid 89%, which is more than enough to show long term profits.

    Now my test includes weekend selections, which are not supplied by email, but as the rules are supplied, you just do them yourself. I also cross reference them with Win2Win qualifiers, and as Win bets have a higher ROI% than Lays, I void any duplicate Lays.

    The only other thing different I do is ignore Flat>NH & NH>Flat form.
    IE. On a NH race you may see the form 328-67, now Terry includes all that form, but if you look on the RP site you may just see 67 for that horse under NH. This is because the site the system gets the qualifiers from mixes flat and NH form, and counts it as one. That to me is a definite no-no as flat form does not transfer to NH very well, and so you are using data that is random, and it is best not to use it at all. The same goes for NH form transferring to the flat.

    So what is the bottom line? Is it worth the subscription? In a nutshell, YES. The good far outweigh the bad, and take the extra info Iíve given you on the lays it should increase your ROI% long term.

    Terry has been kind enough to offer a discount to users of Win2Win Racing so you can save £36.99 on a 6 month subscription, or save £75.79 for 12 months. So you would only pay:
    6 months - £53
    12 months - £79.20

    Now taking the profits from the free Lay system into account, you actually get the subscription for FREE!!

    Sign up here: http://www.thebettinginsider.com/w2w

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    Sounds interesting for a bit of a read once a month if nothing else.

    I can't stand people who say "My Friend" though on their websites :D

    Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ...

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    Your 'My Friend' .....not this close though

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    Do you still recommend this ?

    Resident Believer.


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    Yes :)

    Are you skint? :)

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    Sportsbook-watch recommends the top gambling websites online by providing in depth reviews of sportsbooks, poker and casino websites.
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    I've edited out the link - if people want to visit the site, they will find it through a search engine. I'll give you the benifit of the doubt on this one occasion but the site looked to me like a page of affiliate links and whether the information is useful or not, links to sites like this are strictly monitored to protect our members from Spammers.



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    Purchased 6 months subscription not no email verification received

    Hi Keith,

    I've purchased a six month subscription via the win2win link. I've hot all the way to the end of the transaction with a message saying thank you for your purchase and an email has just been sent to you using the email address supplied.

    Well unfortunately I have not received the email, and yes I did supply the correct email address as I checked it before submitting, and I have also checked my email spam.

    There does not appear to be any contact details for these guys so I was wondering Keith if you could verfiy my purchase with them using my email address which should be in my user profile settings on this forum or provide me with their contact details?

    Thanks and regards,
    Baz



    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    I came across this site some months ago, and as always I like to give things a 3-4 month run before passing on any good or bad information.

    The service is run by a guy named Terry, and he answers emails, unlike some other services I know of. A PDF eBook is supplied once a month, which is what you pay for, but the cost also includes the qualifiers for a free Lay system you get during weekdays via email.

    So what is the service? Basically, Terry reviews betting services, system eBooks, etc, and gives you a review of a few of them each month. The bottom line is he saves you money by pointing out the good from the bad. Heís never mentioned Derek Thompsonís tipping service though, but then we all know how good that is (not)!!!

    Each month the PDF is delivered via email, and contains around 5 reviews, free system stats update, and the Profit Wall: A list of past reviews categorised into Good, Bad, and Maybe!

    The reviews do a good job of passing on as much information as possible without giving any secrets out when reviewing systems. He usually tells you what the sales jargon is, and then gives you the bottom line.

    Most services reviewed you will never have heard of, as obviously once youíve found Win2Win you donít need to go anywhere else!!! 

    All sports are covered, not just horse racing, although the majority are for donkey betting.

    I do have one niggle with it, it would be nice to see monthly, or at least quarterly updates on the services just to make sure they are doing what they should. Iím aware this is a big job for one guy.

    Saying that, it still gives you a general idea of most of the services, and will save you the subscription cost if you are one of those people who keep trying everything, and getting nowhere.

    So what about the free system included? This is a Lay system, but full rules supplied, and I've been running the Lays around 4 months now.

    I started with a £200 test bank, staking 1.5% Fixed Stake, and this got to just over £500 before a terrible run, which as good as wiped the bank out. Because I switched to paper trading I saved 35% of the bank, but as the majority of punters would give up here, and go elsewhere, those who understand gambling know that is totally the wrong way to handle a broken bank. When you first start any betting bank, it is at higher risk then, than at any other time, as long as you are using risk management to add protection as the profits grow that is.

    Anyway, Bank 2 now stands at £1,077.67, although Iíve had a three of decent priced winners lately which put a bit of a dent in it, the SR is still holding well. The bank has peaked at £1,268.43

    Now if you are not a pro or semi-pro, best advice is that if you double your bank, withdraw the initial bank value, and start again. That way you can never effectively lose anything. If you do that, you are giving yourself an edge over 99% of other punters who would never consider doing that because of greed, and it is greed that keeps the majority of punters chasing there tail.

    Strike rate is a solid 89%, which is more than enough to show long term profits.

    Now my test includes weekend selections, which are not supplied by email, but as the rules are supplied, you just do them yourself. I also cross reference them with Win2Win qualifiers, and as Win bets have a higher ROI% than Lays, I void any duplicate Lays.

    The only other thing different I do is ignore Flat>NH & NH>Flat form.
    IE. On a NH race you may see the form 328-67, now Terry includes all that form, but if you look on the RP site you may just see 67 for that horse under NH. This is because the site the system gets the qualifiers from mixes flat and NH form, and counts it as one. That to me is a definite no-no as flat form does not transfer to NH very well, and so you are using data that is random, and it is best not to use it at all. The same goes for NH form transferring to the flat.

    So what is the bottom line? Is it worth the subscription? In a nutshell, YES. The good far outweigh the bad, and take the extra info Iíve given you on the lays it should increase your ROI% long term.

    Terry has been kind enough to offer a discount to users of Win2Win Racing so you can save £36.99 on a 6 month subscription, or save £75.79 for 12 months. So you would only pay:
    6 months - £53
    12 months - £79.20

    Now taking the profits from the free Lay system into account, you actually get the subscription for FREE!!

    Sign up here: http://www.thebettinginsider.com/w2w



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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Hi Keith,

    I've purchased a six month subscription via the win2win link. I've hot all the way to the end of the transaction with a message saying thank you for your purchase and an email has just been sent to you using the email address supplied.

    Well unfortunately I have not received the email, and yes I did supply the correct email address as I checked it before submitting, and I have also checked my email spam.

    There does not appear to be any contact details for these guys so I was wondering Keith if you could verfiy my purchase with them using my email address which should be in my user profile settings on this forum or provide me with their contact details?

    Thanks and regards,
    Baz
    Hi,

    Same problem here. I joined 5 days ago, without any contact from him. I have sent three emails to 3 different email addresses without answer. Iīll wait 3 or 4 days more and if I donīt get an answer Iīll open a request ticket in Paypal.


    This sounds very unprofessional to me.



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    Betting Insider - No Longer Available

    Hi kikemoto,

    Looks like Betting Insider is no longer in business. I had an automatic refund within a couple of days of purchasing.

    Regards,
    Baz



    Quote Originally Posted by kikemoto View Post
    Hi,

    Same problem here. I joined 5 days ago, without any contact from him. I have sent three emails to 3 different email addresses without answer. Iīll wait 3 or 4 days more and if I donīt get an answer Iīll open a request ticket in Paypal.


    This sounds very unprofessional to me.



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    Stop At A Winner systems are hardly a favourite of mine and if you have read my reviews and thoughts on similar products over the past year you will know exactly why. There is so much junk out there and none more so than in the world of SAAW systems. Check out the services that get a massive thumbs down from me each month, 5 Star Tipster, Sure 2 Profit & 125 Bets are just 3 such SAWW systems I have pulled apart.



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