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Mavrick
29th September 2007, 13:46
Right, I've been trying something out for fun which has been doing ok. These are Lays not backs. They'll probably be all favs as the cut-off is 2/1.

Please don't back (or lay for that matter) as they are just a bit of fun.

The stake is 2%, (but was raised to 2.5% on the 10th October) adjusted daily. My prices won't include the stake, so 2.0 is 2/1.

Starting bank £1000
Stake: £20.00

Saturday 29th September

1415 Chester Honky Tonk Sally 0.98 WON
1445 Navan Megan's Joy 1.10 WON
1620 Ascot Excellant Art 2.0 LOST
1645 Haydock Armure 1.14 LOST

Mavrick
29th September 2007, 16:56
2 winners and 2 losers

Todays loss £3.60

Bank £996.40
Next Stake £19.93

Mavrick
30th September 2007, 12:36
Sunday 30th September

Bank £996.40
Stakes £19.93

210 MRAS Kimi 1.68 LOST
430 MRAS Grenfell 1.74 LOST

Mavrick
30th September 2007, 16:43
Both lost

Todays profit £37.86
New Bank £1034.26
Next Stake £20.69

W/L
2/6 SR 66.67%

Mavrick
1st October 2007, 12:05
Monday 1st October

Bank £1034.26
Stake £20.69

350 Brighton Red Current 1.68 LOST

Mavrick
1st October 2007, 16:08
Lost

Todays profit £19.66

New Bank £1053.92

Next Stake £21.08

W/L
2/7 SR 71.43%

wb
1st October 2007, 16:53
Best of luck with this Mav. Is it a system?

Mavrick
1st October 2007, 20:45
Thanks a lot wb. It's mostly system, with just a hint of method.

Mavrick
2nd October 2007, 09:07
There's nothing today.

Mavrick
3rd October 2007, 14:48
A bit late, but I was waiting on the price to fall.

250 Nott Make Haste 1.74 LOST

Stake £21.08

Mavrick
3rd October 2007, 15:28
The race was delayed by 20 odd minutes so it wasn't posted as late as it seemed. The price (1.74) was the second lowest price matched and I wasn't fiddling the figures, it just so happened that 1.80 was the longest price I was willing to accept. The horse lost anyway so it doesn't make any difference.

Todays profit £20.02
New Bank £1073.94
Next Stake £21.48

W/L
2/8 SR 75.00%

Mavrick
6th October 2007, 13:43
410 Redcar Caradak 1.82 LOST

Stake £21.48

There might be another one today depending on the price

Mavrick
6th October 2007, 16:32
Todays Profit £20.40
New Bank £1094.34
Next Stake £21.89

W/L
2/9 SR 77.78%

Now for the after-timing/betfair forum part:D I almost put Amarna up as well which lost at EVS, but the price was slightly too long.

imranali
6th October 2007, 22:08
i am following this, good start!

Mavrick
6th October 2007, 23:48
Cheers imranali. So far so good, I expect a couple of winners are on the way though.

Mavrick
7th October 2007, 13:33
Sunday 7th October

Bank £1094.34
Stake £21.89

230 Uttox Kia Kaha 1.42 WON


210 Hunt Mister Right 0.90 WON

Mavrick
7th October 2007, 14:38
Well the correction came. They both won, but one of them was pretty tight.

Todays Loss £50.78
New Bank £1043.56
Next Stake £20.87

W/L
4/11 SR 63.64%

Mavrick
8th October 2007, 12:57
Monday 8th October

Bank £1043.56
Stake £20.87

440 Pont Me Fein 1.56 LOST

210 Pont Mushtaaq 1.8 LOST

Mavrick
8th October 2007, 17:34
Both Lost

Todays Profit £39.64
New Bank £1083.20
Next Stake £21.66

W/L
4/13 SR 69.23%

I think I'm safe to raise the staking to 2.5%. I'll do it after the next losing day.

Mavrick
9th October 2007, 12:51
There's nothing today.

Mavrick
10th October 2007, 12:51
Wednesday 10th October

Bank £1083.20
Stake £21.66

340 Nott Patkai 1.70 WON

Mavrick
10th October 2007, 15:49
It won

Todays Loss £36.82
New Bank £1046.38

The stakes are now changing from 2% to 2.5% as I think this will be better for long term growth.
Next Stake £26.16
W/R
5/14 SR 64.29%

Mavrick
11th October 2007, 14:02
There's nothing today.

Counting House in the first at Lingfield was almost a selection. Lets hope it wins.

Mavrick
13th October 2007, 13:38
Saturday 13th

300 Ascot IBN Khaldun 0.68 WON

Stake £26.16
Bank £1046.38

I'm leaving an offer at 2.00 for Henrys Pride in the 325 at Bangor. If it's not matched by 310 then it will go down as a no bet and I'll confirm it before the off.

Mavrick
13th October 2007, 14:58
Henrys Pride 2.00 is now a bet in the 325 at Bangor.

Stake £26.16

Mavrick
13th October 2007, 16:03
One winner and one loser

Todays Profit £7.06
New Bank £1053.44
Next Stake £26.34
W/R
6/16 SR 62.5%

There haven't been that many selections lately, but normally there are another couple a week or so more. Nevermind, I can live with 10%+ growth a month :wink

Mavrick
14th October 2007, 12:38
Sunday 14th October

420 Bath Dijeer 1.98

Stake £26.34

Mavrick
14th October 2007, 19:02
It lost.

Todays Profit £25.02
New Bank £1078.46
Next Stake £26.96
W/R
6/17 SR 64.71%

Mavrick
15th October 2007, 13:19
Monday 15th October

400 Windsor Zero Cool 1.96 LOST

Stake £26.92

Mavrick
15th October 2007, 16:09
It lost and the bank hit a new high today.

Todays Profit £25.57
New Bank £1104.03
Next Stake £27.60
W/R
6/18 SR 66.67%

Mavrick
17th October 2007, 14:14
Wednesday 17th October

250 Ling Samual Charles 1.92

Stake £27.60

Mavrick
17th October 2007, 14:55
They ploughed into that one before the off, and it won.

Todays Loss £53.00

New Bank £1051.03

Next Stake £26.28

Mavrick
20th October 2007, 13:35
I am going to break my 2-1 rule, as there just does not seem to be many bets. The Max lay price is now going to be 5-2.

Saturday 20th October

455 Kelso Jass 2.1
505 Nemarket Royal And Regal 2.25

Stake £26.28

Mavrick
20th October 2007, 23:29
A bit of a disaster today

Todays Loss
£114.31
New Bank
£936.72
Next Stake
£23.42

wb
21st October 2007, 01:15
Mav, can I make some constructive criticism?
I don't mean to frown, but after a good start, are your 'rules' becoming inconsistent?
First, the stakes were changed, then the price rule.

Perhaps you keep good records, but personally, I find it hard to review my betting after a few months if I've changed things along the way.
I know you have treated this as fun, so please excuse if I come across as a prune!

Mavrick
21st October 2007, 04:26
Yes you are right wb, I have become a little inconsistent, but the staking I think is for the better judging on the strike rate and the average price of the selections.
However, raising the max. price from 2-1 to 5-2 was maybe not the best thing to do due to how the system works, but I am confident that it will still be profitable and that this is simply a bad run, but I will reverse the price rule if I think it is for the better.
Thanks for looking in, your thoughts are always appreciated.

Mavrick
21st October 2007, 14:46
Sunday 21st October

435 Kemp Liberate 1.56 LOST

Stake £23.42

Mavrick
21st October 2007, 23:00
It Lost.

Todays profit £22.25
New Bank £958.97
Next Stake £23.97

W/R
9/22

SR 59.10%

Mavrick
22nd October 2007, 14:33
Monday 22nd October

340 Pont Latin Lad 1.92 LOST

Stake £23.97

Mavrick
22nd October 2007, 17:17
It lost

Todays Profit
£22.77
New Bank
£981.74
Next Stake
£24.54

W/R
9/23

SR 60.87%

Mavrick
24th October 2007, 14:19
Wednesday 24th October

350 Folk Free Gift 1.94 DEAD HEAT

Stake
£24.54

Mavrick
24th October 2007, 15:58
It dead heated

Todays loss
£23.80
New Bank
£957.94
Next Stake
£23.94

Win2Win
24th October 2007, 16:02
By the way, what are you doing to that horse in your avatar.....you'll be making the Welsh jealous :laugh

Mavrick
24th October 2007, 16:06
:laugh

Mavrick
24th October 2007, 16:33
Did Free Gift dead heat?

Mavrick
24th October 2007, 16:42
I didn't even notice that it was a dead heat. That makes it a little bit better.

Mavrick
25th October 2007, 13:45
Thursday 25th October

410 Brighton City Stable 1.58 LOST

£23.94

Mavrick
25th October 2007, 20:42
It Lost

Todays Profit
£22.74
New Bank
£980.68
Next Stake
£24.52

Mavrick
26th October 2007, 14:27
Friday 26th October


355 Don Kahara 1.7 LOST

Stake
£24.52

This has been going four weeks today so lets see if we can get it back into profit.

Mavrick
26th October 2007, 16:26
It Lost and we're back in profit:thumbs

Todays Profit
£23.29
New Bank
£1003.97
Next Stake
£25.10

W/R
10/26
SR 61.54%

My monthly review

In all honestly I thought it would be doing better then this. It's early days and I'm sure the strike rate is runner lower then it should be and hitting three max. price lays on the trot should be pretty rare.

I've been running another two lay systems with the same cut-off and I think I'll be introducing one of them onto this thread in the next week or so to boost selections. Oh, and I've reversed the price rule, so the max. cut-of is 2-1 again. There were only a couple of selections bigger then 2-1 anyway so it will make little difference and the shorter the prices the happier I am as I hate laying anything remotely big and 5-2 is big in my book:)

I'm sure it will pick up and provide a steady return long term, if not, well at least it's pretty good at lowering the commission:wink

wb
26th October 2007, 17:49
It's a difficult time of the year to keep afloat with the season change-over, so well done for getting back in profit.

Mavrick
26th October 2007, 18:06
It's a difficult time of the year to keep afloat with the season change-over, so well done for getting back in profit.

Cheers wb:)

Mavrick
28th October 2007, 15:12
Sunday 28th October

220 Wincanton Monfils Monfils 1.22 LOST

Stake
£25.10

Mavrick
28th October 2007, 18:51
It lost.

Todays Profit
£23.84
New Bank
£1027.81
Next Stake
£25.70

Mavrick
31st October 2007, 15:06
A bit late, but I got up late

31st October

210 Hunt Highland Chief 0.38 WON

Stake
£25.70

Mavrick
31st October 2007, 15:25
It won

Todays Loss
£9.77
New Bank
£1018.04
Next Stake
£25.45

Mavrick
1st November 2007, 23:33
Up early for a change

2nd November

130 Uttoxeter Super Nick 1.24 NON RUNNER

Stake £25.45

Mavrick
2nd November 2007, 14:19
It was a non-runner

Bank
£1018.04
Next Stake
£25.45

Mavrick
4th November 2007, 13:50
Sunday 4th November

1310 Wolv Star Of Angels 1.66 LOST

Stake
£25.45

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Todays Profit
£24.17
New Bank
£1042.21
Next Stake
£26.06

Mavrick
5th November 2007, 14:04
Monday 5th November



310 Warwick Big John Macarty 1.18 LOST

Stake £26.06

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Traded at 0.03/1 in-running at one point!!

Todays Profit
£24.75
New Bank
£1066.96
Next Stake
£26.67

Mavrick
6th November 2007, 03:45
Tuesday 6th November

230 Lingfield New York Oscar 0.96 LOST

Stake
£26.67

Mavrick
6th November 2007, 05:04
There is another one for Tuesday

330 Lingfield Know The Law 1.46 LOST

Stake
£26.67

Mavrick
6th November 2007, 19:04
They both lost and a new bank high which I am very happy about.

Todays Profit
£50.66
New Bank
£1117.62
Next Stake
£27.94

Mavrick
7th November 2007, 04:06
Wednesday 7th November

1250 Chepstow Breedsbreeze 1.48 WON
340 Chepstow Gentle John 1.46 LOST
100 Huntingdon Donatessa 0.94 LOST
Stake
£27.94

Mavrick
7th November 2007, 07:41
Another one for Wednesday

130 Huntington Mighty Matters 1.86 WON

Stake
£27.94

Mavrick
7th November 2007, 16:50
Two winners and two losers.

There was a late non-runner in Gentle Johns race so that will cancel out the commision for that race.

Todays Loss
£38.84
New Bank
£1078.78
Next Stake
£26.97

Mavrick
8th November 2007, 03:10
Thursday 8th November

220 Hunt Mexican Pete 2.00 LOST
320 Hunt Bauhaus 1.10 LOST

Stake
£26.97

Mavrick
8th November 2007, 16:30
They both lost and a new bank high.

Todays Profit
£51.24
New Bank
£1130.02
Next Stake
£28.25

Mavrick
9th November 2007, 02:13
Friday 9th November

300 Muss Double Banded 0.90 LOST
825 Wolv Points Of View 1.60 LOST

Stake
£28.25

Mavrick
9th November 2007, 09:22
Another one for Friday

330 Muss Mythical Story 1.74 LOST

Stake
£28.25

Mavrick
9th November 2007, 21:53
Not a bad day today if I do say so myself. Probably actually the best day I've had betting in the last 8 months and 10 times better then anything in August/September where it seemed like an up hill struggle all the way.


Todays Profit
£80.49
New Bank
£1210.51
Next Stake
£30.26

thai-swe
9th November 2007, 22:18
Nice Mavrick :)

Mavrick
10th November 2007, 00:45
Thanks thai-swe

Saturday 10th November

1235 Kelso General Ledger 1.30 LOST
220 Winc Joe Lively 1.86 LOST

Stake
£30.26

Mavrick
10th November 2007, 16:34
Both lost

Todays Profit
£57.48
New Bank
£1267.99
Next Stake
£31.70

W/R
12/42

SR 71.43%

The strike has improved no end in the last week. This would probably be a terrible time to start following this.

Mavrick
11th November 2007, 03:39
Sunday 11th November

340 Here Lake Imperial 1.02 WON
350 Market Granite Man 1.90 LOST

Stake
£31.70

Mavrick
11th November 2007, 17:28
With a non-runner in Imperials race it was a break even day except for commission.

Todays Loss
£1.58
New Bank
£1266.41
Next Stake
£31.66

Mavrick
12th November 2007, 15:00
Monday 12th October

240 Wolv Torch Of Freedom 0.70 LOST

Stake
£31.66

Mavrick
12th November 2007, 15:48
Todays Profit
£30.07
New Bank
£1296.48
Next Stake
£32.41

Mavrick
12th November 2007, 23:33
Tuesday 13th November

130 Sedge El Dee 1.34 WON
315 Sedge Little Jimbob 1.98 LOST

Stake
£32.41

Mavrick
13th November 2007, 17:17
Todays Loss
£12.65
New Bank
£1283.83
Next Stake
£32.10

Mavrick
14th November 2007, 22:09
For some reason the forum wouldn't let me log in for the last half hour.

I was going to put up Five Two in the 140 at Taunton as a lay as it was fc 7/4 when it should be more like 7/2, but looking at the early betfair market it is highly unlikely I would have thought for it to go below the 2/1 cut-off anytime soon. If it does and half decent money is matched then it will go down as a bet. I'll update it tonight or tomorrow before the off.

Mavrick
16th November 2007, 05:11
Friday 16th November

255 Newcastle Yankee Holiday 1.36 LOST

Stake
£32.10

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Todays Profit
£30.49
New Bank
£1314.32
Next Stake
£32.86

Mavrick
17th November 2007, 00:31
Saturday 17th November

145 Wetherby Super Road Train 1.24 WON

Stake
£32.86
-----------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£40.75
New Bank
£1273.57
Next Stake
£31.84

Mavrick
23rd November 2007, 08:27
Friday 23rd November

150 Kelso Palomar 0.7 WON

Stake
£31.84
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Todays Loss
£22.29
New Bank
£1251.28
Next Stake
£31.28

Mavrick
27th November 2007, 22:23
wednesday 28th November

145 Chepstow Museo 2.00 NR

Stake
£31.28

Mavrick
29th November 2007, 08:41
Thursday 29th November

245 Taunton Owlesbury Dream 1.32 LOST

Stake
£31.28
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Todays Profit
£29.71
New Bank
£1280.99
Next Stake
£32.02

Mavrick
3rd December 2007, 10:21
Monday 3rd December

300 Folkestone Ammunition 0.71 LOST

Stake
£32.02

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Todays Profit
£30.42
New Bank
£1311.41
Next Stake
£32.79

SR 16/52
69.23%

Mavrick
6th December 2007, 08:54
Thursaday 6th December


210 Wincanton Pur de Sivola 1.92 WON

Stake
£32.79
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Todays Loss
£62.96
New Bank
£1248.45
Next Stake
£31.21

Steven2007
6th December 2007, 13:34
Hello Mavrick i was wondering at what time do you take the odds of the selections because its trader around 3.3 at the moment on betfair.

Thanks




Thursaday 6th December


210 Wincanton Pur de Sivola 1.92

Stake
£32.79

Mavrick
6th December 2007, 14:53
Hi Steven

My odds do not include the stake, so 1.92/1 is 2.92 on betfair, hence the 0.71 given for the previous selection (Ammunition).

I tend to get my bets matched during the night and I post them as soon as I've seen they have been matched. If an offer that I have left is not matched then I don't have a bet and it doesn't get posted.

Hope that helps any questions just ask.

Steven2007
6th December 2007, 14:56
Iv been looking at your results for awhile your pretty good at picking low priced losing horses.

Any chance of me learning with you. so im able to work out selections :)

Many thanks :)

Steven2007
6th December 2007, 15:01
Hopefully your selection today will lose :)

its 3rd fav at the moment on betfair

Mavrick
6th December 2007, 15:17
:splapme

Nevermind

Steven2007
6th December 2007, 15:17
dam won lol ! not to good :(

Mavrick
6th December 2007, 15:43
If your're following them don't worry. Losing runs don't last long as the odds are so short and it was due a little correction. It will provide a steady return long term.

Steven2007
7th December 2007, 02:39
Hopefully a losing selection for 07/12/07 :D

Mavrick
7th December 2007, 07:53
Iv been looking at your results for awhile your pretty good at picking low priced losing horses.

Any chance of me learning with you. so im able to work out selections :)

Many thanks :)

Sorry I've only just seen this post. I'm afraid it wouldn't really be possible to tell you how to do it as you would need my ratings that I compile and also there is a bit of form reading to filter the selections down.

What I always say to people who want to learn how to read form is get a copy of Nick Mordins's "Betting For A Living" it's only about a tenner on amazon and it will be the only book you will need.

As I said before I tend to leave offers for selections at prices which I think represent value and if they're aren't matched then I don't have the bet and I don't post them. If you want I can also post them selections as well and the prices that I've left offers for, about 2/3 of them get matched, but don't change the price on betfair to make them get matched. If they don't get matched you don't have the bet.




Friday 7th December

145 Lingfield Blue Jack 1.80 LOST

£31.21
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Todays Profit
£29.65
New Bank
£1278.10
Next Stake
£31.95

Mavrick
8th December 2007, 07:15
Saturday 8th December


125 Ling Orange Square 1.12 LOST

Stake
£31.95
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Todays Profit
£30.35
New Bank
£1308.45
Next Stake
£32.71

Steven2007
8th December 2007, 10:16
Hopefully another looser :)

Steven2007
9th December 2007, 02:11
Well done for 2 day

Mavrick
9th December 2007, 09:44
Sunday 9th December

I'm leaving an offer for Role On in the 220 at Kelso for 2.00/1. If it gets matched then it will go down as a bet. If it doesn't then it won't.
If you're following these don't lay it at a bigger price.

Stake
£32.71

Steven2007
9th December 2007, 10:12
Would you try match it in-running if its not matched before hand?

Mavrick
9th December 2007, 10:32
I don't personally, but I have often thought about doing it in the past. I've also considered hedging the bets in-running but I've always decided against it in the end.

You could give it a shot as quite often they get backed in to ridiculously short prices in-running before getting turned over, but I would suggest you don't:)

Steven2007
9th December 2007, 14:33
Cheers m8

Steven2007
9th December 2007, 15:35
It lost just unlucky we dint lay it :(

Mavrick
9th December 2007, 18:08
It lost just unlucky we dint lay it :(

Yeah I was quite surprised that one didn't get matched at some point during the day, but it looks like it was just one way money for Augustine , who was easily the best horse in the race.


Nevermind, bring on tomorrow:)

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 02:14
O Yes :) you use msn or anything like that?

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 03:09
O Yes :) you use msn or anything like that?

Nope. This forum is the only place I do any chatting:yikes: How sad is that?:laugh

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 03:10
haha how come u dont use the msn and so forth lol?

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 03:30
In all honesty I can't be bothered:) I'm not the most social person on the planet as I don't like football, I keep my TV in the wardrobe and haven't watched it in over year and I only like talking about horse racing and even then I normally get into an arguement about a horses chance:D

There are some sound people on here and if I was better at small talk then I would be more active in other parts of the forum, but I'm not so I keep quiet..most of the time that is:)

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 03:39
Yer true, i like horse racing the most also i watch tv quite abit im chatty about horses not much of other subjects tho hah!

How long does it take you to find a good selections about 1hour?

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 03:58
When it comes to the lays, I've already done most of the hard work before I start looking at the days racing by compiling my ratings. My ratings normally take about 6 hours a week and I can break it up by doing them every day or every other day which is what I mostly do.

It all depends on how many races on a given day have valid selections as I have to then have a quick look at their form to make sure all is ok. For an example the last two days it took less then 10 minutes as there was only one selection to look at on both days and their form was pretty straight forward, but Thursday took well over an hour as there were a few slections to have a look at, and that bet ended up being a loser!

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 04:03
If your're on here for the next 30 minutes I can tell you if there is a selection for today.

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 04:14
Yer im on for next 30mins what time is it in your country?

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 04:41
Yer im on for next 30mins what time is it in your country?

0438. We're an hour infront of the UK

I'm afraid there is just another offer at 2/1 for tomorrow, and I'm not sure if it will get matched as the current market seems to have got this one completely wrong in my opinion and there is probably plenty of value in taking the current price, but we don't do that do we?:D

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10th December

1250 Muss Four County Lad 2.00 LOST

Stake
£32.71
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Todays Profit
£31.07
New Bank
£1339.52
Next Stake
£33.49

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 04:47
ooo so only lay it if it hits 3.0 again on the exchange?

Do you think it would loss anyways?

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 04:57
ooo so only lay it if it hits 3.0 again on the exchange?

Do you think it would loss anyways?

Yep, only lay it if it hits 3.00.

I think it will lose and I put it in as a 3/1 shot, but If I was you I would just leave an offer for 2/1 and if it doesn't get matched then don't have a bet.

I know having to wait a couple of days for a bet can make people impatient, but in the long run you'll be glad you have done it. It also makes you more disciplined which is vital if you're going to make money out of this game.

Speak to you later Steven as I've got to make my girlfriend her omlette before she gets up for work:splapme
Guess who wears the trousers in our house

and then I'm off out for my morning run/walk/crawl:laugh

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 04:59
aww aint that nice! lol!

early haha!

take it easy speak later :)

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 13:41
We are on. Fingers crossed.

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 15:01
Yer it lost good good ;)

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 15:23
It didn't pan out quite how I was expecting, but I'll take it:)

Time for bed as I've been awake for over 30 hours:geek

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 15:24
What do you mean it dint pay out aswell as you wanted ?

30hours ekk!!

Mavrick
10th December 2007, 15:34
Pan not pay! Come on, keep up man :D

I wasn't really expecting him to get placed, and when it was in-running I must admit I was getting a little concerned. Yep 34 hours to be exact. I was going to go to bed at about 0900, but then I had one of them big cans of red bull and sleep was then out of the question:)

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 16:15
haha opps typo hah!!

did it come 2nd?

okie m8 sleep easy!

Steven2007
10th December 2007, 23:03
what time u back on?

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 04:30
Anything for tuesday :)

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 05:35
I've only just woken up:yikes:

That was a nice sleep. I probably won't know if there anything for today for about an hour and a half.

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 07:10
There is nothing at all today.

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 10:56
okie mate :)

how long did you sleep 4 in the end lol

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 11:02
About 10+ hours in the end:D

I'm going to have an easy day today as well.
I'll probably have a good idea about tomorrows selections sometime this evening or the early hours:)

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 15:09
okie doky ! good good 10hour is alright!

what time do you think ?

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 15:35
Probably by midnight my time unless I fall asleep as my body clock is all over the place at the moment:)

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 15:40
aww how did you mess it up then?

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 15:51
My girlfriend works funny hours and if she gets home and I'm in bed I always wake up and can't get back to sleep so I get up and do some work on my computer and before I know it I'm falling asleep in the middle of the day/night.. who knows:D

I'm trying to get back into a routine where I go to bed about 2100 and get up at 0500. I like to have all my bets sorted by 0800 ish before tipsters release their tips and ratings.

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 15:54
o right so you get the better odds you mean hehe !!

9am pretty early aint it im up til about 3am me lool!!

Mavrick
11th December 2007, 20:09
It will be tomorrow morning now Steven as I'm going to bed. I can't keep my eyes open.

Steven2007
11th December 2007, 20:18
okie m8 no worrys sleep easy night :)

Steven2007
12th December 2007, 09:38
anything for today m8y?

Mavrick
12th December 2007, 09:47
I'm sorry I don't know yet as I've had to spend a few hours updating my ratings. I should know within an hour or so.

Steven2007
12th December 2007, 10:33
oki m8 i will pop back in abit :)

Mavrick
12th December 2007, 11:23
There's nothing again today:mad:

I'll sort them out earlier tomorrow, it just took me longer then I thought it would today.

Steven2007
12th December 2007, 12:20
Aww okie m8 no worrys :)
What plans you have 2 day?

Mavrick
12th December 2007, 12:32
Nothing special planned. Probably just watch the racing on my computer, have a look at the form for tomorrow and do a bit of cleaning in my apartment. A most exciting life I lead:D

Steven2007
12th December 2007, 22:25
I have 2 do some cleaning aswell!

Are you looking for selections tonight?

Mavrick
12th December 2007, 22:32
No, it'll be tomorrow morning again, but I'll get them up earlier this time:)

Steven2007
12th December 2007, 22:34
What time u up 2moro about 5am lol!!

wb :)

Mavrick
13th December 2007, 06:02
I actually got up at 0300 because I fell asleep early again last night and I have managed to sort the whole days racing out before 0600! Not bad a?:D

I'm afraid to say that it is another day without any lays, but there were several that almost made it onto the list. The best of them is Welsh Main 1.82/1 in the 1250 at Taunton, but I wouldn't have a bet if I was you. I certainly won't be.

Steven2007
13th December 2007, 10:45
ok m8y
Thanks :)

Steven2007
14th December 2007, 04:49
i will catch u in a few hours m8y

Mavrick
14th December 2007, 08:43
We had a power cut so I wasn't able to get on the internet for hours:censored:

Friday 14th December

240 Southwell Safebreaker 1.74 WON

Stake
£33.49
----------------------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£58.27
New Bank
£1281.25
Next Stake
£32.03

Steven2007
14th December 2007, 10:46
Aww what aint to good is it ! Hopefully another looser :D

Mavrick
14th December 2007, 15:49
Nevermind:mad:

Steven2007
14th December 2007, 15:55
yer :( not to good that one :( how much did you lose?

Mavrick
15th December 2007, 09:30
yer :( not to good that one :( how much did you lose?

Enough to make me stay in bed all day:D

Saturday 15th December

105 Southwell Counting House 0.79 LOST

Stake
£32.02
__________________________________________________

Todays Profit
£30.43
New Bank
£1311.68
Next Stake
£32.79

Steven2007
16th December 2007, 10:04
any selections 2 day ?

Mavrick
16th December 2007, 10:41
Just double checking. Should know in 10 minutes or so:)

Mavrick
16th December 2007, 11:00
No, nothing today.

Steven2007
16th December 2007, 15:26
okie doky :) plans 2 day?

Mavrick
16th December 2007, 16:35
I've spent the day trying to write content for a website that I'm sorting out. It's been fun:) Now it's time for dinner. mmm

Steven2007
16th December 2007, 21:06
what website you sorting out then mavrick?

Steven2007
17th December 2007, 10:05
Anything today m8y?

Mavrick
17th December 2007, 10:12
I'm afraid there is nothing today mate, but I've already got my eye on one for tomorrow though if it's priced how I expect it to be.

Steven2007
17th December 2007, 15:31
which one you keeping an eye on?

Steven2007
18th December 2007, 04:18
Hows it going m8 wot you been doing with ya self 2 day?

Mavrick
18th December 2007, 09:55
Sorry mate, I had a hectic one last night.

The horse I had my eye on is about 2 points bigger then I thought it would be so it's another day with no lays.

It's annoying when there isn't anything for a few days.

Steven2007
18th December 2007, 20:14
what did ya get up 2 last night den hah :P

what horse was u keepin an eye on?

Mavrick
18th December 2007, 21:45
I went out to do some xmas shopping and somehow ended up drunk:laugh when I got home I started studying the racing and fell asleep on my computer:) When I woke up I couldn't be bothered to carry on so I just went to bed.

The horse I was looking at was called High Bird Humphrey in the 1220 at Catterick and it finished stone last at 7/2:splapme. I thought it would have been much shorter then that. I'm determined to get tomorrows racing finished soon, but if the last week is anything to go on I might not be able to be relied upon, but I'll do my best:wink

Steven2007
18th December 2007, 21:48
7/2 aint to bad odds i gues what odds was it when you was looking @ it?
:)

Mavrick
18th December 2007, 22:02
It was about 7/2, but I thought it was going to be forecast something like 6/4

Steven2007
18th December 2007, 22:30
whats the max you lay up to the is it only 3?

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 03:52
hopefully something for wensday :D

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 10:15
is there anything for today my?

Mavrick
19th December 2007, 11:22
I'm sorry again for not getting back to you sooner. There is nothing again and I spent absoloute ages trying to find something for today. There are three running today which I wouldn't want to be on at the price though:

320 Ling Mutamaasek 1.74
240 New Petit Robin 1.84
120 Bangor Openditch 1.72

but I won't be getting involved. Yep I don't lay bigger then 3.00 anymore, as it's just not my cup of tea.

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 11:56
see if they get lower :) we just had a chemical plant blow up next 2my house so i got 2 stay in lol

Mavrick
19th December 2007, 12:04
see if they get lower :) we just had a chemical plant blow up next 2my house so i got 2 stay in lol:yikes:

Blimey, that doesn't sound too good.

The lays that I've posted are actually profitable in the long run, but the profit on turnover is rather small, so I don't back them myself. I'm trying to refine them so I can start using them as well as there aren't that many of my main lays.

I wouldn't back them today, as the last 6 of them have all won (horse lost) and so a correction is extremely likely.

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 12:25
which ones are your main lays then?

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 13:15
You no that book you spoke about does it help you pick lay selections m8y?

Mavrick
19th December 2007, 13:20
My main lays are the ones that you have been betting on. I always put a stake next to them and they are the ones that I've been including on the results.

These are just something else. I would not bet these if I was you. There are no main lays today.

The book that I recommended tells you how to read form, that's it. So you can use it for lays and backs and it's completely invaluable. It's no system though and you still have to put hours of work in, but if you want to know what to look for in horse races then that's the one to get.

I have read it 10s of times and I refer to it nearly every day!

Steven2007
19th December 2007, 15:03
o right i will look in to it . about getting it.

What ya up to then?

Steven2007
20th December 2007, 03:31
Hopefully something for 2moro aye mavrick :)

Mavrick
20th December 2007, 10:43
Yep, finally a bet today.

Thursday 20th December

210 Ludlow Barton Sun 2.00 LOST

Stake
£32.79
-----------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£31.15
New Bank
£1342.83
Next Stake
£33.57

Steven2007
20th December 2007, 10:48
Is there anything 2 day? m8

Mavrick
20th December 2007, 10:52
Just posted amigo:)

It's now got a bit shorter.

Steven2007
20th December 2007, 10:59
Cheers fella :)

Steven2007
20th December 2007, 19:07
Good selection lost :)

Mavrick
20th December 2007, 19:20
Good selection lost :)

That's how we like it:thumbs
One more winning bet and the bank will have hit a new high. Probably get a couple of losing bets now:D

Let's hope not:)

Steven2007
20th December 2007, 19:24
Yer lets hope not cant be aving that now can we :)

Mavrick
20th December 2007, 19:26
Yer lets hope not cant be aving that now can we :)

Nope, not with christmas on the way:)

Steven2007
21st December 2007, 10:06
Is there anything today m8y?

Mavrick
21st December 2007, 10:35
There's nothing again today. There was one that almost made it onto the list, but not quite.

Thanks to whoever left me some rep for the thread. Much appreciated:thumbs

Steven2007
21st December 2007, 10:44
aww hehe :)

Getting busy for xmas now aint it :)

Mavrick
21st December 2007, 10:47
Yes. I've still got to do some shopping myself. Why I leave it until the last minute every year, I have no idea. The shops are going to be crazy busy this weekend.

Steven2007
21st December 2007, 12:52
What you buying me fella! hahah:)

You just staying in with your g.f u seeing ya family n dat?

Mavrick
21st December 2007, 14:08
Yeah, just spending christmas with my g/f. My parents live in the UK, so unfortunately I won't be seeing them at christmas. They popped over here in October to see me though which was nice.

My g/f is a vegetarian, so instead of turkey, it will be tofu:mad:

Steven2007
21st December 2007, 22:49
ahh icic lol :)

how come u left the Uk then m8y?

Mavrick
21st December 2007, 23:31
ahh icic lol :)

how come u left the Uk then m8y?

Because it's :censored: :D

I wouldn't go back if you paid me.


I've got a bet for tomorrow. I'm just waiting for it to get matched and then I'll post it:)

Mavrick
21st December 2007, 23:45
Saturday 22nd December

1540 Lingfield Gentlemans Deal 1.32 WON

Stake
£33.57
----------------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£44.31
New Bank
£1298.52
Next Stake
£32.46

Steven2007
23rd December 2007, 12:39
ekkk not to good my friend. nothing for todayright?

Mavrick
23rd December 2007, 13:25
Yeah not too great. Nothing today.

Steven2007
23rd December 2007, 13:50
yer only one track aint it

Mavrick
23rd December 2007, 15:22
The next bet won't be before Wednesday, and depening on how much I drink on Tuesday there might not even be a bet then:)

Merry Christmas amigo.

Steven2007
23rd December 2007, 19:50
okie doky fella :D

Have a good one :)

Merry Christmas ma man !!

Steven2007
25th December 2007, 16:43
Merry Christmas Mavrick :P

Steven2007
27th December 2007, 10:07
is there anything 2day?

Mavrick
27th December 2007, 18:56
I'm sorry that I haven't posted I've been too busy with christmas and stuff. I'm still recovering.
Hope you had a good christmas.

Steven2007
27th December 2007, 22:04
Yer m8 iv been good thanks , hope yours was good :D

get nice things?

Steven2007
28th December 2007, 10:31
Anything 2 day?

Mavrick
28th December 2007, 11:23
It's going to be an hour or so before I know if there is anything today.
Normal service will resume tomorrow :)

Steven2007
28th December 2007, 11:53
okie m8 , im moving house 2 day busy busy me such a task lol

Mavrick
28th December 2007, 12:27
lol

Good luck moving house, nothing more annoying if you ask me.

There's nothing today mate.

Steven2007
28th December 2007, 12:38
yer tell me about it ,means like hard to get online for time now lol ..

Okie m8 no worrys :)

Mavrick
29th December 2007, 00:05
Saturday 29th December

1215 Muss Laborec 1.50 WON

Stake
£32.46
----------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£48.69
New Bank
£1249.71
Next Stake
£31.24

Mavrick
29th December 2007, 13:36
Laid that one at a rubbish price.

Mavrick
31st December 2007, 14:07
There's nothing today.

Mavrick
1st January 2008, 13:33
Tuesday 1st January

A very late one!

1240 Exeter Lodge Lane 1.18 WON

Stake
£31.24
--------------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£36.86
New Bank
£1212.85
Next Stake
£30.32

Mavrick
1st January 2008, 13:46
Oh dear!

A bit of a terrible run.

Mavrick
1st January 2008, 14:16
Experiencing a bit of a nightmare the last couple of weeks. This has been my joint longest ever losing run. It's been a good thing Steven that you haven't been able to get online recently.

This is due a little correction, so now would probably be a good time to start following it. Fingers crossed.

Mavrick
2nd January 2008, 00:25
Wednesday 2nd January

650 Kempton Fastella 1.90 NR

Stake
£30.32

Mavrick
3rd January 2008, 13:44
Thursday 3rd January

135 Lingfield Northern Desert leave an offer for 2/1, currently 9/4

If it gets matched at 2/1 then it'll go down as a bet, if not then it won't.

Stake
£30.32

Mavrick
3rd January 2008, 14:29
It is looking extremely unlikely that'll get matched as it has now drifted out to 3/1, so it'll probably not count as a bet.

Mavrick
3rd January 2008, 14:34
It's not a bet.

Steven2007
3rd January 2008, 14:47
Hiya m8 hows things going im in a netcafe as i got no internet for about 2 weeks what really sucks big time !!!

i hope ya doing good and had a happy new year :D

speak soon m8y :)

Mavrick
3rd January 2008, 15:06
Hello mate. Yeah I'm doing ok, pitty about the bets though. I had a mad Christmas and New year, and will need a little while to recover:)

Pitty about your internet, hope you sort it out soon.

Take it easy:)

Mavrick
4th January 2008, 05:07
There is nothing today.

Mavrick
5th January 2008, 05:36
Saturday 5th January

230 Chepstow Back On Line 2.00 WON

Stake
£30.32
-------------------------------------------------
Todays Loss
£60.64
New Bank
£1152.21
Next Stake
£28.81

Mavrick
5th January 2008, 15:14
Another one that doesn't look like it will get matched. It hit 2.15 at one point, but is now out to 2.55.

Mavrick
5th January 2008, 15:30
It has now been matched so we are on.

Mavrick
5th January 2008, 15:41
Not another one.

Mavrick
7th January 2008, 13:34
Monday 7th January

1520 Southwell Cragganmore Creek 2.00 LOST

Stake
£28.81
------------------------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£27.37
New Bank
£1179.58
Next Stake
£29.49

Mavrick
8th January 2008, 07:40
Tuesday 8th January

1210 Southwell Jackie Kiely 2.00 LOST

Stake
£29.49
-------------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£28.02
New Bank
£1207.60
Next Stake
£30.19

Mavrick
9th January 2008, 04:57
Wednesday 9th January


1530 Kempton Reeling N Rocking 2.00 LOST

Stake
£30.19
---------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£28.68
New Bank
£1236.28
Next Stake
£30.90

Mavrick
10th January 2008, 13:03
There is nothing today.

Mavrick
11th January 2008, 05:39
Friday 11th January


1530 Wolv Martyr 1.94 LOST

Stake
£30.90
----------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£29.36
New Bank
£1265.64
Next Stake
£31.64

Mavrick
12th January 2008, 04:39
There is nothing for Saturday

Mavrick
13th January 2008, 05:02
Sunday 13th January

1420 Kempton Faithful Ruler 1.44 LOST

Stake
£31.64
-------------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£30.06
New Bank
£1295.70
Next Stake
£32.39

Mavrick
14th January 2008, 02:46
Monday 14th January


1320 Fakenham Harringay 1.80 LOST

Stake
£32.39
-----------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£30.77
New Bank
£1326.47
Next Stake
£33.16

Mavrick
15th January 2008, 05:02
Tuesday 15th January


1430 Southwell Yankee Storm 1.52 LOST

Stake
£33.16
------------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£31.50
New Bank
£1357.97
Next Stake
£33.95

Mavrick
17th January 2008, 04:51
I don't think there will be anything for Thursday. There is a possibility at Wolvs, but I won't know until the afternoon.

Mavrick
18th January 2008, 03:03
Friday 18th Janurary


1820 Kempton Saviles Delight 1.70 LOST

Stake
£33.95
-----------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£32.25
New Bank
£1390.22
Next Stake
£34.75

Mavrick
21st January 2008, 05:15
Monday 21st January

330 Wolv Given A Choice 1.40 LOST

Stake
£34.75
-----------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£33.01
New Bank
£1423.23
Next Sake
£35.58

Mavrick
22nd January 2008, 02:48
Tuesday 22nd January

1430 Southwell Bonnie Prince Blue 2.38 LOST

Sake
£35.58
-----------------------------------------------
Todays Profit
£33.80
New Bank
£1457.03
Next Stake
£36.43

Mavrick
23rd January 2008, 03:04
Wednesday 23rd January

650 Kempton Avoca Dancer 2.00 WON

Stake
£36.43
--------------------------------------------------
There were a couple of non-runners so the amended price is 1.81.

Todays Loss
£65.94
New Bank
£1391.09
Next Stake
£34.77

Steven2007
23rd January 2008, 05:22
you alright m8 long time no speak:)

only just got my internet back

hows u doing?

Mavrick
23rd January 2008, 08:18
Hello mate it's good hear that you have sorted out your internet. All is going well my end.

You are probably going to hit a few losing bets if you start following these now as they have just hit a really good run with 10 winning bets on the trot.

Steven2007
23rd January 2008, 20:25
Nice one your doing well then :D

How was todays selection?

Mavrick
24th January 2008, 18:05
The bet lost. It's been a bit weird lately as the selections which I thought might have a chance have come no where, but the ones I thought had no chance of finishing first have won.

I was out on the town last night and I was going to get up early to see if there was selection but I couldn't as I had the worst headache I've had in years. My girlfriend has these really strong painkillers left over from a surgery which she never takes and I had one and it dealt with the headache nicely:D

Steven2007
24th January 2008, 18:42
nice hehe atleast u feeling better thats the reason i dont drink no more always feel **** after so was not worth it haha !!

you think anything good for 2 moro?

Mavrick
24th January 2008, 21:02
I don't drink very often, but when I do I normlly have too much.

I won't know about a selection until 2am-3am. There probably is one though.

Mavrick
25th January 2008, 03:11
Friday 24th January

There is no bet today.

Steven2007
25th January 2008, 04:13
Hows it going today you been alright?