Course Record Breakers

Madness! No Way! Just seen the Racing Post have awarded track record breaker a whopping 58 from TopSpeed, what a joke!

But the most significant of the three records at Haydock yesterday has to be Number Theory's who quickened off a moderate pace to take a near second from a 42 year old & is the youngest of the three

May 24th 2012 – Day of 3 Crse Records?

GOING: GOOD TO FIRM (9.6). Weather conditions: Hot and Sunny.
STALLS: 6f & 1m 4f - Centre; 7f & 1m - Inside; 1m 2f – Outside

2:20 - Chill Out Spa Handicap·
Crse Rec (std +2.00s) PB 85+ WW off true g 12dys 10gf Hayd May 12 - DP = 7-4-9-0-0 (20) DI = 3.44 CD = 0.90

1m2½f, Class 5, £2,264.15

1 Elspeth's Boy 14/1 2 Jack's Revenge 9/1 3 The Galloping Shoe 3/1F NR: Xclaim

15 ran Distances: ¾l, 1¾l, 3¾l

TIME 2m 9.03s (fast by 1.97s)Jockey: Garry WhillansTrainer: Philip Kirby

Course record.· · ·

4:05 - Hattons Solicitors Gold Membership Handicap·
XoM PB 98+ Crse Rec (std +0.12s) WW HU off solid p 20dys 8gf dual CD Hayd May 12 - DP = 4-1-14-1-2 (22) DI = 1.20 CD = 0.18

1m, Class 3, £6,663.07

1 Oriental Scot 7/1 2 Imperial Djay 16/1 3 Desert Romance 4/1 13 ran

Distances: 1½l, nse, nk

TIME 1m 39.88s (fast by 0.12s)

Jockey: William CarsonTrainer: William Jarvis

Course record.· ·

5:15 - Taylormade Betting Handicap·

nr XoM Crse Rec (std +3.50s) WW HU off mod p Q'd 2 out 26dys 12gf Hayd +12 Improved May 12 -

1m4f, Class 4, £4,075.47

1 Number Theory 9/2F 2 Loden 28/1 3 Arizona John 5/1 NR: Veiled Applause
13 ran Distances: 5l, hd, ½l

TIME 2m 25.53s (fast by 3.47s)

Jockey: Russ KennemoreTrainer: John Holt

Course Record

Talk of an Ascot h'cap for this:

4:05 - PHS Direct Handicap

XoM (std +0.90s) Crse Rec WW C4 =PB 92 & Q'd & Eased 8gf Hayd May 12 - DP = 4-3-12-4-1 (24) DI = 1.18 CD = 0.21 - talk of R Asc h'cap -

1m, Class 4, £4,075.47

1 Basseterre 11/4
2 Devdas 6/1
3 Nelson's Bay 25/1

NR: Zakreet

8 ran Distances: 1½l, ½l, 1½l

TIME 1m 39.11s (fast by 0.89s)

Jockey: Kieren Fallon
Trainer: Charles Hills

New course record.

Couple of winners for previous record breakers @ Haydock on Saturday while Bated Breath blitzed another:

May 26th 2012 – gf

3:00 - Betfred.com Temple Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 2)

XoM Crse Rec (std +2.11s clr 0.40spf 30+lb) 128+? 167dys 5gf Hayd May 12 - Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10 -

5f, Class 1, £45,368.00

1 Bated Breath 2/1F
2 Sole Power 3/1
3 Spirit Quartz 14/1
NR: Medicean Man

12 ran Distances: nk, 3½l, hd

TIME 56.39s (fast by 2.11s)

Jockey: George Baker
Trainer: Roger Charlton

Course record

Bated Breath

Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10

L'Ami Louis Crse Rec XoM? (std +1.41s) 89+me 18dys 6fm Salis May 11 - 99 7/2

Couple of winners for previous record breakers @ Haydock on Saturday while Bated Breath blitzed another:

May 26th 2012 – gf

3:00 - Betfred.com Temple Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 2)

XoM Crse Rec (std +2.11s clr 0.40spf 30+lb) 128+? 167dys 5gf Hayd May 12 - Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10 -

5f, Class 1, £45,368.00

1 Bated Breath 2/1F
2 Sole Power 3/1
3 Spirit Quartz 14/1
NR: Medicean Man

12 ran Distances: nk, 3½l, hd

TIME 56.39s (fast by 2.11s)

Jockey: George Baker
Trainer: Roger Charlton

Course record

Bated Breath

Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10

L'Ami Louis Crse Rec XoM? (std +1.41s) 89+me 18dys 6fm Salis May 11 - 99 7/2

Couple of winners for previous record breakers @ Haydock on Saturday while Bated Breath blitzed another:

May 26th 2012 – gf

3:00 - Betfred.com Temple Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 2)

XoM Crse Rec (std +2.11s clr 0.40spf 30+lb) 128+? 167dys 5gf Hayd May 12 - Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10 -

5f, Class 1, £45,368.00

1 Bated Breath 2/1F
2 Sole Power 3/1
3 Spirit Quartz 14/1
NR: Medicean Man

12 ran Distances: nk, 3½l, hd

TIME 56.39s (fast by 2.11s)

Jockey: George Baker
Trainer: Roger Charlton

Course record

Bated Breath

Improved Sep 11 - XoM jt Crse Rec (std +0.61s) PB 115?me 16dys 6gf Winds May 11 - WW & style of Gr horse 6gf Hayd July 10

L'Ami Louis Crse Rec XoM? (std +1.41s) 89+me 18dys 6fm Salis May 11 -

Another previous course record breaking winner & he does it again, another peaking 5yo? & likely to improve for the run as 224 days here.

3:40 - Play Casino At BetVictor.com Handicap·

XoM Crse Rec (std +1.43s clr by 1.24spf) PB 101+ WW off frantic g 222dys 7gf Ayr May 12 - XoM Crse Rec (std +2.77s) fit 8gf Mussel July 10 - 89-89 PB fit 8gf Donc Jun 10 - DP = 6-0-13-9-2 (30) DI = 0.71 CD = -0.03

7f, Class 4, £4,075.47

1 Ginger Jack 5/1 2 Santefisio 10/1 3 Celtic Sultan 7/1 12 ran

Distances: shd, hd, shd
TIME 1m 28.07s (fast by 1.43s)

Jockey: P J McDonaldTrainer: Geoffrey Harker

Course record

Good day for the figs at Carlisle - two clear top rated's including -

Not much of an achievement though as only scraped 1/5th of a second of a 3yo record & a 7yo only running to his previous best - might still leave him capable of another h'cap?

4:05 - Edinburgh Woollen Mill Cumberland Plate Trial Handicap

XoM (std +2.50s 0.18spf / 17lbClr) Crse Rec =PB 105+ WW off str p C4 5dys 11gf Carl Jun 12 - Dual CD 9gf Epsom June 10 - DP = 6-8-16-3-1 (34) DI = 1.83 CD = 0.44

1m3½f, Class 4, £6,469.00

1 Tartan Gigha 16/1
2 Yahrab 13/2
3 Cape Rising 6/1J

NR: Border Bandit (USA), Hunters Belt (IRE)

14 ran Distances: 2¾l, 3¼l, 1½l

TIME 2m 22.00s (fast by 2.50s)

Jockey: Joe Fanning
Trainer: Geoffrey Harker

Course record time.

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Originally Posted by Godspot

Interesting again here, making debut for new yard, another ex-Mark Johnston horse (I reckon they were profitable to follow over in Dubai this last winter at least) takes nearly 3 seconds off the recent record.

3:45 - Blue Square Levy Board Sagaro Stakes (Group 3)

WW off solid gallop Gr3 Crse Rec XoM (std +1.50s) PB 127p NY 200dys 16sd K-aw May 12 - Improved Oct 11 - Ger bred 2m+ - SDS 2/3 Oct 11 - DP = 8-0-16-10-4 (38) DI = 0.73 CD = -0.05

2m, Class 1, £22,684.00

1 Colour Vision 9/2
2 Red Cadeaux 100/30
3 Thimaar 5/2F

6 ran Distances: 1½l, 9l, 5l

TIME 3m 21.50s (fast by 1.50s)

Jockey: Frankie Dettori
Trainer: Saeed Bin Suroor

Course record time.

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Thought that was a good one, 3 seconds off the previous, was a massive 1lb clear in the Gold Cup on my figs on that.

Let's make a bold prediction, while I have just noticed that Pivotal still holds a juvenile Course Record @ Folkstone - in that pretty soon he will be nominated as a Chef-de-Race sire: http://www.chef-de-race.com/main_menu.htm

Anyway, how a horse doesn't break standard time like two other races on card yet breaks track record ? ? But

4:30 - Homeleigh Timber And Building Supplies Handicap

PB Crse Rec (0.13s fr 21yo) 82+ 9dys 15gf Folk 8-10-36 career Jun 12 -

1m7½f, Class 5, £2,385.95

1 Alfraamsey 6/4F

2 Saborido 15/2
3 Hidden Valley 4/1

8 ran Distances: ¾l, 9l, ¾l
TIME 3m 22.97s (slow by 0.97s)
Jockey: Richard Hughes
Trainer: Sheena West

Course record.

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Originally Posted by Godspot

But the most significant of the three records at Haydock yesterday has to be Number Theory's who quickened off a moderate pace to take a near second from a 42 year old & is the youngest of the three

May 24th 2012 – Day of 3 Crse Records?

5:15 - Taylormade Betting Handicap·

nr XoM Crse Rec (std +3.50s) WW HU off mod p Q'd 2 out 26dys 12gf Hayd +12 Improved May 12 -

1m4f, Class 4, £4,075.47

1 Number Theory 9/2F 2 Loden 28/1 3 Arizona John 5/1 NR: Veiled Applause
13 ran Distances: 5l, hd, ½l

TIME 2m 25.53s (fast by 3.47s)

Jockey: Russ KennemoreTrainer: John Holt

Course Record

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Takes the Old Newton on Saturday @ 8/1 & has now won 4 times over CD but I don't suppose there can be many 42 year old course records left to break, I'll have to look into it sometime:ermmm

What a contrary year we're having regards weather & ground conditions -

There were were two track records broken yesterday - the first one just a Juvenile who only took 0.03 of a second from a relatively recent previous & rating may be skewed a little by pretty dysfunctional weight-for-age scale:

1:55 - Juddmonte Royal Lodge Stakes (Group 2) (Colts & Geldings) NewmR

XoM 124+ Juv Crse Rec 25dys 'trnr4Rx2!' 8gf NewmR Sep 12 - NMQ 2nd start 14dys trnr4R 7g G Good Aug 12 - DP = 1-0-4-1-2 (8) DI = 0.60 CD = -0.38 Asc OK! TDS

1m, Class 1, £56,710.00

1 Steeler 11/4
2 Artigiano 7/1
3 Al Waab 4/1
NR: Afonso De Sousa (USA)

8 ran Distances: 1l, 3½l, nse

TIME 1m 35.67s (slow by 0.17s)

Jockey: Kieren Fallon
Trainer: Mark Johnston

Juvenile course record.

But the most significant one imho has to be The Disengager @ Market Rasen - only a few runs after he broke the track record @ Bangor, he goes & does it again, making all in a big field h'cap but he took more than 5 seconds off a 33 year-old record. Reminiscent of Harris Tweed on the flat who went on to be Gr3 class

Sep 29th 2012 – gd h gf c

2:40 - 32Red Handicap Chase (Listed Race)

XoM as c CR 145+ 27dys made all WW trnr4R 23g Mar R Sep 12 - XoM 132+ 11dys J/Rght 22g Newt Ab Aug 12 - CR [std +4.30s] 133+ made all j'd wl 44dys 21gf Bang [likes] Jul 12 - bttr chaser? DP = 2-2-2-1-9 (16) DI = 0.45 CD = -0.81

2m6½f, Class 1, £28,475.00

1 The Disengager 17/2

2 Bobowen 6/1
3 Mahogany Blaze 20/1
4 Idarah 33/1
16 ran Distances: ¾l, 11l, nk

TIME 5m 19.00s
Jockey: Richard Johnson
Trainer: Philip Hobbs

Course record time.

3 previous course record breaker winners last Saturday, Ginger Jack 10's, Doc Hay 6/1 & Mince again 9/4f

I'm in the process of creating some lists of most recent for AW, Flat & Jumps

In the meantime, another Juvenile went tonight & a near full second off the previous could be significant bar the fact with the same trainer as the last & who never ran again, so who knows?

8:00 - sportinglife.com Nursery·

XoM jt C2 WW Juv Crse Rec (std +0.35s) Q'd Imprsv 6l's 27dys 7as K-aw Oct 12 - 3/4s fr 5yo rec? DP = 7-1-10-2-0 (20) DI = 1.86 CD = 0.65 Asc OK USA bred -

7f, Class 2, £7,633.42

1 Tamarkuz 11/8F
2 George Cinq 9/2
3 King Oliver 33/1 13 ran
Distances: 6l, nse, nk

TIME 1m 23.95s (fast by 0.35s)

Jockey: Silvestre De SousaTrainer: Saeed Bin Suroor

Juv Crse Rec

Dunno where this Shadow Gate will be running next but sure was fast for a 10yo, maybe the 2nd of more use to us & the 3rd has run the fastest 7f at the track since I been keeping records...

9:25 - Dundalk Stadium - Light Up Your Night Race

XoM CR (std +1.52s & only +)[0.20spf / 17lb clr] 107+ 300dys 11sd D-aw Oct 12 -

1m2½f, €10,350.00

1 Shadow Gate 25/1
2 Ernest Hemingway 7/2
3 Banna Boirche 4/1
NR: Virtuous Hawk (IRE)
11 ran Distances: 2½l, 2l, nse

TIME 2m 10.48s (fast by 1.52s)

Jockey: Declan McDonogh
Trainer: Takashi Kodama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FntbjNCDwLk

Mr Mordin impressed too:

http://www.nickmordin.com/ireland.htm

"POSTED ON OCTOBER 21, 2012

FANTASTIC RACE BETWEEN SHADOW GATE AND ERNEST HEMMINGWAY

A couple of years ago Takashi Kodama produced a remarkable training performance when he won a race at the Galway Festival with nine year old Pop Rock, the former Japanese star that had come within a short head of winning the Melbourne Cup four years earlier.

Earlier this week at Dundalk he topped even that effort when taking a conditions race with ten year old SHADOW GATE (40/120) who had won the Singapore Airlines Cup way back in 2007.

Shadow Gate was held up off the furious gallop set by Ernest Hemmingway then stayed on late to collar that one when he tired up the straight. In doing so he broke the course record for Dundalk's 1m 2f & 150 yards by nearly half a second to produce what I rate a solid Group 2 class effort.

If Taksahi Kodama can produce Shadow Gate in the same sort of form next year he might just be able to break the record set by 10yo Yavana's Pace ten years ago and become the oldest horse ever to win a Group 1 flat race.

The race was notable for the astonishing pace set by the Coolmore colt ERNEST HEMMINGWAY (38/114).

By taking the times at each furlong marker and then using the speeds in between to calculate the other seventy yards I estimate that Ernest Hemmingway ran the first seven furlongs 0.7 of a second faster than the winner of the seven furlong 60-95 handicap, which I rated the next fastest race on the card. He ran the first mile only a fifth of a second slower than the track record for that distance. And he reached the three furlong marker an almost impossible 5.9 seconds earlier than they did in the truly run handicap over the same trip won by Raydari, who is now two for two on Polytrack.

Running up to the three furlong marker Ernest Hemmingway really opened up on his rivals to blast six and a half lengths clear. He was full of running and looked uncatchable at that point. But soon afterwards the pace began to tell and he was steadily reeled in by his pursuers, though only the former Japanese star actually managed to catch him.

On his previous start in the Arc Ernest Hemmingway ran tremendously fast for the first nine and a half furlongs, taking the field along at a pace that made me happy to award him a rating of 40 for his effort up to that point. If they'd stopped this race after nine and a half furlongs he'd have earned the same rating from me again.

If he were mine I'd be giving serious thought to running Ernest Hemmingway in the Premio Roma next month. His performance for the first mile and a quarter in the Arc showed that he can act on the soft ground that race is usually run on, and it would give him a real shot of securing a Group 1 win.

Hopefully Ernest Hemmingway will stay in training next season. Ridden with a little more restraint he could well become one of the top ten furlong horses in Europe, with the Prix Ganay being an obvious early target. Trainer Aidan O'Brien has won that race twice in recent seasons."

What a bunch of nob heads on C4 writing this off as a useless trial, I can remember them showing Clive Brittain backing Miblish for a Group race last year:

Me thinks there could be a few track records going to 6yo's if we ever get any decent ground:

3:05 - Blue Square Bet Winter Derby Trial Stakes (Listed Race)
XoM Crse Rec [0.40s fr 4yo][0.23spf clr] 118+made all Q'd 185dys 10sd L-aw Feb 13 -

1m2f, Class 1, £20,982.70

1 Planteur 2/5F

2 Miblish 20/1
3 Tepmokea 40/1

9 ran Distances: nk, 2¼l, 5l

TIME 2m 1.20s (fast by 0.80s)
Jockey: Adam Kirby
Trainer: Marco Botti

Course record.

Thought as much - must've rained leading to a couple of fast times & course records -

2:20 - Blue Square Bet Hever Sprint Stakes (Listed Race)·

nr xom PB 120+ Listed WW (std +0.83s CR by 1/2s 6yo) 21dys 5sd L-aw [likes] +9 Improved Mar 13 - Wont see best until 4 or 5 says trnr May 11 - youngest by 3 months in Queen Mary 1st 3/18 2nd start!

5f, Class 1, £20,982.70

1 Ladies Are Forever 10/1
2 Timeless Call 8/1
3 Tarooq 6/1 10 ran

Distances: 2¼l, 1l, shd

TIME 56.67s (fast by 0.83s)

Jockey: William Twiston-Davies
Trainer: Geoffrey Oldroyd

Course record time.·

3:30 - Blue Square Bet Winter Derby (Group 3)·

XoM PB 124+ (std +1.01s CR 3wk?) 119dys 10sd L-aw [likes] +9 Improved Mar 13 - XoM PB 115+ (std +0.03s) Listed WW 202dys 10sd L-aw Nov 12 - Improved Sep 11 -

1m2f, Class 1, £56,710.00

1 Farraaj 6/4F
2 Robin Hoods Bay 12/1
3 Cai Shen 9/2
NR: Emerald Wilderness (IRE), Miblish
9 ran Distances: ½l, ¾l, ¾l

TIME 2m 0.99s (fast by 1.01s)

Jockey: Andrea Atzeni
Trainer: Roger Varian

Course record time.

Going to try & post the last most recent 100 course record breakers & see how the formatting comes out.

The last one to run & win was the Romford Pele the other day, hard to keep track of things as so busy but I always keep my google doc updated: here, if anyone's interested>

Date Course Type Distance Horse Record Standard Comments
10/16/2014 Punchestown C 2m 2f Alelchi Inois (Fr) 4m 21.00s 4m 30.00s Not sure about b well clear fast x & won 6 of last 8 starts?
10/15/2014 Wetherby C 2m(C)(13) Nikos Extra (Fr) 3m 41.70s 3m 48.00s Takes 1.60s fr a 1yo record & aged 10??
10/15/2014 Wetherby H 2m4f(H)(11) Fort Worth (Ire) 4m 39.40s 4m 46.00s Takes 2.60s fr 5yo record & only 3rd st, OTF!!
10/15/2014 Wetherby H 2m6f(H)(12) Kayserberg (Fr) 5m 2.10s 5m 9.00s Takes 5.60s fr 3yo record, lightly raced 07Class & NY* here!
10/5/2014 Longchamp F 7f Olympic Glory (Ire) 77.73 80.00 No data to go on?
9/21/2014 Plumpton H 3m1f110y(H)(14) Teak (Ire) 5m 53.00s 5m 57.00s nr 5secs from 8yo record?
9/17/2014 Beverley Flat 1m4f16y Leaderene 2m 34.75s 2m 34.20s Takes 0.13s from a 5y record?
9/13/2014 Doncaster Flat 1m (str) Dance Of Fire (2yo) 1m 37.03s 1m 36.80s Equals 4y record & only 4th start but a h'cap compared to last time?
9/13/2014 Doncaster Flat 5f140y Muthmir (Ire) 1m 5.38s 1m 6.70s Takes 0.63s fr 2y record!
9/3/2014 K-aw AW 6f(AW) Tendu (2yo) 1m 11.36s 1m 11.00s nr 1/10s from 4y record previous won nout? But o 2nd start sis of Showcasing!
8/21/2014 Ffos Las H 3m(H)(12) Chill Factor (Ire) 5m 39.00s 5m 30.00s Takes 2.50s from 5y record, lightly raced youngster with stamina!
8/21/2014 York Flat 6f Tiggy Wiggy (Ire) (2yo) 1m 8.90s 1m 10.20s Takes 0.38s from a 4y record by now useful sire, Imprsv!
8/20/2014 York Flat 7f Dutch Connection (2yo) 1m 22.32s 1m 23.00s Takes 0.13 fr 4y & 4th start so not too impressive?
7/29/2014 Goodwood Flat 5f Cotai Glory (2yo) 57.30s 57.00s Takes 1/5s from a 3yo rec
7/29/2014 Worcester C 2m4f110y(C)(15) Sedgemoor Express (Ire) 3m 51.40s 3m 54.00s Takes 1.10sec from a 1 year old record but lightly raced improver!
7/22/2014 Musselbrough Flat 2m La Bacouetteuse (Fr) 3m 26.23s 3m 25.50s Takes 0.37s fr 12yo rec but 9yo, wcr ly
7/22/2014 Southwell C 3m110y(C)(19) Best Boy Barney (Ire) 6m 10.10s 6m 4.00s Takes 5sec fr 3y rec b new crse?
7/22/2014 Southwell H 2m(H)(9) Dealing River 3m 44.30s 3m 38.00s Takes 0.80s fr 3y record & least impressive of days 3 CR's?
7/22/2014 Southwell H 3m110y(H)(13) Jawaab (Ire) 5m 55.40s 5m 57.00s Takes 7sec fr 2y rec b new crse?
7/19/2014 Hamilton Flat 1m3f16y Postponed (Ire) 2m 18.66s 2m 20.00s Takes 0.66s fr 6yo record
7/11/2014 Chester Flat 5f16y Peterkin (Ire) 58.88s 59.60s Takes 0.30s fr 50yo record?
6/29/2014 Uttoxeter C 3m2f(C)(20) The Romford Pele (Ire) 6m 17.60s 6m 19.00s Takes 6secs from an 18yo record
6/22/2014 Hexham C 2m110y(C)(12) I'mjoeking (Ire) 3m 52.80s 3m 59.00s Takes 4/5th's sec from 14yo record, more to come?
6/18/2014 Ascot Flat 1m (str) Integral 1m 37.09s 1m 40.00s One 0.40 secs from 5yo record?
6/18/2014 Ascot Flat 1m2f The Fugue 2m 1.90s 2m 5.60s Takes 0.60s fr 3y rated 130+
6/9/2014 Newton Abbot C 2m110y(C)(13) Makari 3m 49.90s 3m 57.00s Takes 3.30s fr 5yo record & going to be better c than hurdler? J'd Right!!
5/19/2014 Towcester C 2m6f(C)(16) Top Wood (Fr) 5m 15.60s 5m 16.00s Takes 1.30s fr 1yo rated 145 as h?
5/19/2014 Towcester H 2m3f110y(H)(10) Ballygrooby Bertie (Ire) 4m 31.50s 4m 36.00s Takes 15secs from 8yo record - Lightly raced H*
5/5/2014 Kempton C 2m(C)(12) Australia Day (Ire) 3m 43.60s 3m 50.00s Takes nr 5 secs from 7yo record, J'd well MA aged 11 though?
5/5/2014 Kempton C 2m4f110y(C)(16) Rum And Butter (Ire) 5m 1.50s 5m 6.00s Takes 1.70s fr <1yo but c debut so more to come?
5/5/2014 Kempton C 3m(C)(18) American Spin 5m 54.20s 5m 58.00s Takes 1.10s fr <1yo record
5/5/2014 Kempton H 2m5f(H)(10) Chilworth Screamer 4m 58.20s 5m 0.00s Takes 3.20s from a 5yo record
4/24/2014 Newcastle Flat 5f G Force (Ire) 57.81s 59.40s Takes 1/5th sec from a 20yo rec on only 2nd start & follows up
4/18/2014 L-aw AW 1m(AW) Captain Cat (Ire) 1m 34.51s 1m 35.30s Takes 0.26s fr 6yo record & shld be up to a quality flat h'cap if not PC?
4/18/2014 Musselbrough Flat 1m6f Johny Delta 2m 57.98s 3m 0.00s Takes > 1 second from a 14yo record, poor SR on flat but 0.20 as a hurdler
4/15/2014 Kempton C 2m4f110y(C)(16) Bertie's Desire 5m 3.20s 5m 6.00s nearly 4 secs from a 5yo record??
4/15/2014 Kempton C 3m(C)(18) Miss Ballyantyne 5m 55.30s 5m 58.00s Won hurdles too & bt Kauto's CR by 2 secs? retired to stud? ?
3/29/2014 K-aw AW 1m3f(AW) Salutation (Ire) 2m 16.09s 2m 18.00s Takes nr 1 sec fr 2yo rec but had strong wind behind, MA here!
3/29/2014 K-aw AW 6f(AW) Trinityelitedotcom (Ire) 1m 09.79s 1m 11.00s Takes 1 sec fr 2yo record with strong wind behind!
3/17/2014 Southwell C 2m(C)(13) Memorabilia 3m 54.60s 4m 0.00s Takes 1.20s fr 2yo & only 4th c start? Clear o card b o 2 c's?
3/11/2014 Cheltenham H 2m110y(H)(8) Jezki (Ire) 3m 45.25s 3m 51.00s Near 3 secs from 14yo rec but new start method tempers a tad?
3/5/2014 K-aw AW 1m2f(AW) Rebellious Guest 2m 2.97s 2m 4.50s 4/5ths faster than 6yo record!
2/22/2014 L-aw AW 7f(AW) Grey Mirage 1m 21.92s 1m 22.50s Takes 1/5s from 1 month old record?
2/2/2014 Musselbrough H 3m110y(H)(14) Seeyouatmidnight 5m 36.2s 5m 26.00s New distance?
1/24/2014 L-aw AW 7f(AW) Alfred Hutchinson 1m 22.09s 1m 22.50s Takes 1/10sec from 8yo & most Progressive at present!
12/18/2013 L-aw AW 6f(AW) Tarooq (USA) 1m 8.94s 1m 10.00s Takes 1/3rd sec from a 4yo record & good SR AW
12/11/2013 Leicester C 2m4f110y(C)(15) Theatrelands 5m 22.60s 5m 1.00s
12/11/2013 Leicester C 2m7f110y(C)(18) Little Chip 5m 44.80s 5m 43.00s near 6secs form 15yo but distance not used much??
12/9/2013 Musselbrough H 2m4f(H)(12) Strongpoint (IRE) 4m 34.70s 4m 30.00s
12/9/2013 Musselbrough H 3m110y(H)(14) Luctor Emergo (IRE) (09Dec13) 5m 36.80s 5m 26.00s
12/4/2013 Catterick H 2m3f(H)(10) Smadynium (Fr) 4m 31.50s 4m 32.00s Takes 1.5secs from a 9yo record?
11/30/2013 Newbury C 2m1f(C)(13) Valdez 3m 57.34s 4m 2.00s Took 0.30s from a 1yo record & new start timing may have contributed?
11/29/2013 Doncaster C 2m3f(C)(15) Off The Ground (Ire) 4m 36.90s 4m 37.00s Takes < 1/2 sec from 18 month record?
11/29/2013 Newbury C 2m2f110y(C)(15) Highway Code (USA) 4m 31.87s 4m 22.00s Takes 0.03s fr 7yo record?
11/23/2013 L-aw AW 7f(AW) Complicit (Ire) (2yo) 1m 22.67s 1m 22.50s Takes full second from 5yo record? & followed up at Deauv days l8r!
11/16/2013 Wetherby C 2m(C)(13) Mwaleshi 3m 43.30s 3m 48.00s Takes 1.60s fr 3yo record
10/18/2013 Cheltenham H 3m(H)(12) Trackmate 5m 46.96s 5m 44.00s Takes 3.5s from a 2yo record?
10/12/2013 Chepstow C 2m3f110y(C)(16) Balder Succes (FR) (12Oct13) 4m 42.50s 4m 45.00s
10/11/2013 Carlisle C 2m(C)(12) Up To Something (11Oct13) 3m 54.50s 3m 57.00s
10/10/2013 Exeter H 2m5f110y(H)(11) Cruising Bye (10Oct13) 5m 5.70s 5m 5.00s
10/9/2013 Ludlow H 2m(H)(9) Alwaystheoptimist (09Oct13) 3m 35.90s 3m 38.00s
10/9/2013 Ludlow H 3m(H)(12) Dark Spirit (09Oct13) 5m 33.30s 5m 38.00s
10/9/2013 Towcester H 2m3f110y(H)(10) Safferano (09Oct13) 4m 34.65s 4m 36.00s
10/5/2013 Ludlow C 3m(C)(19) Bold Perk (05Oct11) 5m 48.40s 5m 50.00s
9/28/2013 Ripon Flat 1m Greed Is Good (2yo) (28Sep13) 1m 38.77s 1m 38.30s
9/27/2013 Haydock Flat 5f Deeds Not Words (IRE) (2yo) (27Sep13) 59.66s 58.00s
9/27/2013 Haydock Flat 6f Easy Ticket (IRE) (2yo) (27Sep13) 1m 10.72s 1m 10.00s
9/10/2013 Worcester C 2m4f(C)(15) Moorlands Jack (10Sep13) 4m 38.20s 4m 45.00s small field low wght here but 7 starts later <100 OR wins CD again?
9/2/2013 Ffos Las Flat 1m Hala Hala (2yo) (02Sep13) 1m 39.36s 1m 38.00s
8/28/2013 Worcester C 2m7f(C)(18) Whistling Senator (28Aug13) 5m 29.70s 5m 33.00s
8/28/2013 Worcester H 2m(H)(8) Chilbury Hill (28Aug13) 3m 33.40s 3m 40.00s
8/22/2013 Ffos Las H 2m6f(H)(11) Koultas King (22Aug13) 5m 15.40s 5m 0.00s
8/22/2013 Newton Abbot H 2m3f(H)(9) Rum And Butter (22Aug13) 4m 15.20s 4m 19.00s
8/21/2013 Warwick Flat 6f Fathsta (21Aug13) 1m 9.36s 1m 10.00s Was a 0.19spf clr but a (S) so not added & not won after 5 starts
8/21/2013 Warwick Flat 6f Greeb (2yo) (21Aug13) 1m 10.70s 1m 10.00s
8/21/2013 York Flat 5f89y Bogart (21Aug13) 1m 1.72s 1m 3.00s
8/17/2013 Lingfield Flat 7f Hiking (2yo) (17Aug13) 1m 20.55s 1m 21.00s
8/17/2013 Ripon Flat 6f Baccarat (IRE) (17Aug13) 1m 9.72s 1m 10.50s Wins Wokingham 5 starts later from high draw! & PC possible now!
8/10/2013 Lingfield Flat 6f Clear Praise (10Aug13) 1m 8.13s 1m 9.60s
8/1/2013 Stratford C 2m1f110y(C)(12) Professeur Emery (01Aug13) 3m 56.70s 4m 2.00s
8/1/2013 Stratford C 2m7f(C)(17) Five Out Of Five (01Aug13) 5m 23.80s 5m 23.00s
7/30/2013 Worcester C 2m110y(C)(12) Oceana Gold (30Jul13) 3m 52.50s 3m 54.00s
7/27/2013 Ascot Flat 1m4f Novellist (27Jul13) 2m 24.60s 2m 30.00s
7/27/2013 Ascot Flat 7f Galician (27Jul13) 1m 24.28s 1m 26.00s
7/27/2013 Newcastle Flat 1m4f93y Livia's Dream (27Jul13) 2m 36.90s 2m 38.70s
7/26/2013 Uttoxeter C 2m6f110y(C)(16) Brassick (26Jul13) 5m 35.60s 5m 30.00s
7/23/2013 Ffos Las Flat 1m4f Men Don't Cry (23Jul13) 2m 31.58s 2m 34.20s
7/20/2013 Haydock Flat 7f Set The Trend (20Jul13) 1m 25.95s 1m 26.00s
7/19/2013 Nottingham Flat 1m2f50y Vasily (19Jul13) 2m 7.13s 2m 6.00s
7/18/2013 Doncaster Flat 1m Quick Wit (18Jul13) 1m 34.95s 1m 36.80s
7/18/2013 Doncaster Flat 6f Andhesontherun (IRE) (2yo) (18Jul13) 1m 10.87s 1m 11.00s
7/17/2013 Worcester H 2m4f(H)(10) Jigsaw Financial (17Jul13) 4m 28.70s 4m 35.00s
7/14/2013 Perth C 2m4f110y(C)(15) Strobe (14Jul13) 4m 48.20s 5m 0.00s
7/13/2013 Newm July Flat 6f Lethal Force (13Jul13) 1m 9.11s 1m 10.20s
7/13/2013 York Flat 1m The Rectifier (13Jul13) 1m 35.14s 1m 37.30s
7/11/2013 Newm July Flat 1m2f Maputo (11Jul13) 2m 0.91s 2m 1.50s
7/11/2013 Warwick Flat 7f26y Chriselliam (2yo) (11Jul13) 1m 22.74s 1m 21.60s Dual Gr1 by end of season & jt fav for 1,000G's
7/8/2013 Newton Abbot C 3m2f110y(C)(20) No Loose Change (08Jul13) 6m 9.50s 6m 24.00s
7/7/2013 Market Rasen C 2m2f(C)(12) Mister Wiseman (07Jul13) 4m 13.60s 4m 18.00s

Total Chaos at Wetherby November 1st - there's been a big hoo ha? since.

Does Menorah stay 3m?

I thought there'd be questions as too many records were going too often with no explanation. I copied this from the Racing Post website soon after but since all the fuss the three new record breakers have all been stripped:

DISTANCE RECORD HOLDER COURSE RECORD RP STANDARD
2m(C)(13) Storm Surge (31Oct09) 3m 55.50s 3m 48.00s
2m(C)(13) Solar Impulse (FR) (01Nov14) 3m 39.60s 3m 48.00s
2m110y(H)(9) Lightening Rod (31Oct14) 3m 43.20s 3m 48.00s
2m4f(H)(11) Fort Worth (IRE) (15Oct14) 4m 39.40s 4m 46.00s
2m4f110y(C)(16) Drever Route (13Oct10) 4m 47.80s 4m 49.00s
2m6f(H)(12) Kaysersberg (FR) (15Oct14) 5m 2.10s 5m 9.00s
2m6f110y(C)(18) Pistol Basc (13Oct10) 5m 24.90s 5m 22.00s
2m7f(H) Doris´s Gift (02Nov07) 5m 38.40s
3m1f(C)(18) Menorah (01Nov14) 5m 46.10s 5m 51.00s
3m1f(C)(18) Mandingo Chief (21May09) 6m 5.30s 5m 51.00s
3m1f(C)(18) Nacarat (20May10) 5m 36.10s 5m 51.00s
3m1f(H)(13) Cole Harden (IRE) (01Nov14) 5m 52.00s 6m 4.00

If you visit the Wetherby Course Records now it's like the day never happened at all:

""3. MENORAH has suddenly become a robust 3m+ beast…

Well…um…except he hasn’t really, has he?

In fairness to the horse he did almost win the Betfair Bowl at Aintree a couple of season’s back but even then he didn’t really look a horse that was crying out for a 3 mile trip, generally looking the sort that would be susceptible to a more robust staying type.

With that in mind I’m sure I wasn’t the only one scratching my head when Menorah romped home with the 3m1f Charlie Hall Chase on Saturday.

The alarms bells should have started ringing when the Hobbs horse broke the course record.

That course record time changed it from ‘how did that happen’ to ‘how the HELL did that happen!’.

I was ready, although not all that happy, to mark it down as just ‘one of those things’, an early season anomaly, a horse that was potentially more forward on the day than his opponents.

That was until I read Simon Rowlands latest Timeform article ‘Rowleyfile investigates: What is going on at Wetherby?‘.

Now that Charlie Hall Chase result starts to make a bit more sense.

It wasn’t a 3m1f race, it was more like a 2m7.5f race. That’s significant. That’s very significant in fact. That’s pretty much a different race.

From my perspective it’s a bit of a ball-ache. The Charlie Hall is a race I analyse from a Dosage perspective. The Charlie Hall figures are based on the race being a 3m1f race (or as near enough to that to not make a significant difference).

Stamina clearly isn’t quite as paramount over 2m7.5f as it is over 3m1f. Menorah didn’t have to dig as deep into his limited stamina reserves as would normally have been expected.

Come on Wetherby, get it sorted! It’s a hard enough game without the distances being completely wrong!

Treat that Charlie Hall Chase form with a large pinch of salt.

- See more at: http://www.narrowing-the-field.co.uk....9UMdQ05i.dpuf

A number of tracks have been found to have the wrong distances. Very annoying since measuring them is simple. All you need is a wheel and a stick, but that seems to be too complicated for some course managers.

One thing that annoys me is on tracks who move the rails by a wide margin, and do not move the start. sometimes it can add a couple of hundred yards to a race. :ermmm

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One thing that annoys me is on tracks who move the rails by a wide margin, and do not move the start. sometimes it can add a couple of hundred yards to a race. :ermmm

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The thing that annoys me the most :voodoo:::swear people that get paid to do it, Dave Edwards of TopSpeed from the Racing Post for example, don't even notice :mad:

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The thing that annoys me the most :voodoo:::swear people that get paid to do it, Dave Edwards of TopSpeed from the Racing Post for example, don't even notice :mad:

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They like to keep things as simple as possible, so choose to ignore a lot of variables hoping it all evens out in the end. Maybe they do, but on a single race they can make the figures a waste of time.

Looks like the Racing Post Ratings are going to be the most reliable over jumps at least for a year or two?

National trip revised as jump tracks remeasured

BY TOM KERR 1:40PM 6 MAY 2015

THE advertised trip of next year's Crabbie's Grand National will be a furlong shorter than previous due to a new method of measuring race distances that makes the course of the world's most famous chase 4m2½f.

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Full list of revised race distances
http://www.britishhorseracing.com/wp...-June-2015.pdf

Dozens of races will technically be run over shorter distances, and 11 tracks unable to adjust their start positions have been given dispensation to run races over less than the minimum distance of two miles.

The new methodology has been introduced to improve accuracy in race distances, according to the BHA and Racecourse Association (RCA), who together published the new measurements on Wednesday.

Under the new system the race distance has been calculated by professional surveyors measuring a racing line two yards off the innermost running rail, rather than along the mid-point of the course using a surveyor's wheel as under the previous system.

The revised measurements will be advertised from June 1. Each race will then have two distances: one a precise figure accurate to the yard, the other a figure rounded to the nearest half-furlong, as under the previous system.

Jamie Stier, BHA director of raceday operations and regulation, said: "This project was instigated to bring the measurement of jump races in line with the methodology already used to measure Flat races, and ensure greater accuracy of jump-race distances."

Caroline Davies, racecourse services director for the RCA, added: "For jump racing in particular, it is essential that clerks of the course have the scope to move running rails so as to provide the best possible racing surface especially during periods of inclement weather.

"Having a base measurement means that changes to race distances can be advertised more accurately, particularly if late changes to the racing line are necessary due to dolling out."

The National shrunk from 4m4f to 4m3½f in 2013 when the start was moved further from the stands for safety reasons, but on this occasion the start and the course remain the same as it is simply the method of measuring that has trimmed the distance.

The greatest change to a race distance is at Market Rasen, where a 4m3½f chase will now be run over over 4m2f.

Some racecourses have adjusted start positions to reflect advertised distances. At other tracks official race distances have been reduced.

There are 11 courses where the minimum trip will now be under two miles, including Ascot, Haydock and Sandown. Ayr will now host the shortest jumps race in Britain, a 1m7f112y chase.

Stier added: "Where dispensation has been granted it is important to note that the distances of the races in question have not changed – they will be run over the exact same course as previously – nor is this an indication that the races were previously run over the wrong distance. Simply the new methodology, which follows a tighter line, naturally means that the advertised distances will be shorter.

"Where this revised distance was less than two miles alterations, if possible, were made to start positions, however in the 11 cases this was not possible, so the only options were to delete the races from the programme or provide exemptions to the rule."

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd