Cookie Policy: This web site uses cookies. By using this site you agree to our cookie policy.
Disclaimer: By posting on this web site it is accepted that you have agreed to the T&C. This is an information forum, and it is just that information, all views are of the individual poster and not that of the site owner. Please DO NOT publish copyrighted material without the owners permission. If you copy news or articles include a link back to the original site. Threads/Posts may be deleted on request. No other links without permission.
BEFORE POSTING A QUESTION: Your question has probably been asked before, so please use the
SEARCH FUNCTION, as we grow tired of answering the same question again and again.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 50

Thread: AW - Sectional Timing - 1's-2-follow...

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51

    Lightbulb AW - Sectional Timing - 1's-2-follow...

    3 c BOSCOBEL
    M Johnston
    , This Derby entry’s figures suggest he is Listed class, if not better. The sectionals suggest he is about a stone better than he is rated & could be more so with a stronger early pace. Sire (Halling)’s progeny’s average winning distance is 10.4f & he can only get better over further than his maiden winning distance.

    3 f DALVINA
    E Dunlop
    , According to sectional times of her mdn win at Lingfield can be rated at least 7lb better & that is an underestimate. She’s almost certainly Listed class, too, at least.

    4 g HASSAAD
    W Haggas,
    Lightly raced, progressive 3yo, did hold a Crse Rec @ Kempton for a week or so but the sectionals he recorded through the race suggest he is well in advance of any rating he can be allotted by traditional h’capping methods (don’t tell Godspot, he may become an AW convert). Hassaad will probably stay 10f but will likely prove best at around a mile for the time being & could develop into a Lincoln contender.

    3 f RAINBOW PROMISES(USA)
    B Meehan
    , Won a mdn @ Lingfield in October & attracted ante-post support for 1,000 Guineas (now 14/1). Her sectionals can be translated into a figure in excess of 105, which suggest she is Listed class already. She is by a top American dirt horse at up to 10f, Came Home & it remains to be seen how she will fare with turf but she’ll have no trouble staying a mile.

    5 m ZAVILLE
    J O’Reilly, Progressive stayer with a decent turn-of-foot for a modest level. A dual CD winner @ Wolves, she is worth at least 5lb more than her present rating & can win another couple of staying h’caps.

    Source: Graham North (monthly updates beginning Jan 3rd ’07, RP Weekender)

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  2. #2

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Seeing as none of the above have even run yet, I hope no-one minds but I am adding these to this thread, I’m in no doubt that some of them will be transferring their ability to the 2007 turf campaign.

    These are fast horses, if they haven't broken a track record, they are all running faster than standard.

    Abandon, a well bred filly but trainer W Haggas has a poor record with first timers on the AW, however once they've had a run, his 3yo's plus have a 30+% sr next time in AW maidens.
    Areyoutalkingtome, what he did last Saturday, in giving weight & a beating to other quality types marks him out as one to follow. TS Dave Edwards, AW man, R Young (the next Les Arcs) & Graeme North (a whole page & a ½ on one horse), all certainly seem to think so.
    BaharShumaal
    Challis
    Cusoon
    Descartes
    Etlaam
    Gentleman’s Deal
    , now in contention for AW Horse Of The Year & is fancied for Lingfield’s Winter Derby.
    Players Please
    Qadar
    Saviours Spirit
    Turn On The Style
    Woodnook


    That reminds me, it must be time to send off for my Final Flat Edition Black Book.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  3. #3

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    3.05 Ling

    Woodnook
    , this is a drop in class & 2 1/2l’s second to Areyoutalkingtome is pretty hot form, has been placed 3 from 4 with J Fortune on board. On a negative side, the best he’s done after a break (has been off track for 8 weeks) is be placed so far. However, he is the only one in the race who has more than one tip & a fc 7/2 about a horse who has 8/14, could make him worth a small win bet on that score alone.

    3.40 Ling

    Cusoon
    , could be a better class of animal than Mighty beat last time but statistically (jock/trnr combo) up against it, should be very close between these two.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  4. #4

    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    1,401
    Rep Power
    47
    I don't know anything about the AW but, if Woodnook has a performance pattern that suggest he will need a race after a lay off then surely he can't be a good thing.

    Watch it go and win now.

    Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ...

    George Carlin


  5. #5

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    I reckon he'll be placed but he gets over 1/2 of the tips in the RP. Some research I did a while back suggests 7/4 is value about a horse with 8 tips.

    Have you checked your mail lately?

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  6. #6

    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    1,401
    Rep Power
    47
    It's here!!!

    I didn't check yesterday.

    Thanks alot bud.

    Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ...

    George Carlin


  7. #7

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    I should leave it till tomorrow though!

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  8. #8

    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    1,401
    Rep Power
    47
    Well done with Woodnook. I knew soon as I opened my mouth that it would go and win:)

    Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ...

    George Carlin


  9. #9

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    I pretty much knew when I saw the odds. I'm no great fan of the AW but this little lot above could make me more interested, shame there is none entered for tomorrow cos there is not a lot else on though I haven't looked at Naas yet.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  10. #10

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    3.50 Southwell

    Saviours Spirit


    Interesting little race this. The fc favourite, Red Cape, though he hails from a hot form race, has yet to prove he acts on this surface & could be worth taking on. Quiet Times makes a quick reappearance and too, ran in a hot little race but in recent visits here has only once been placed from four runs.

    Our horse, on the other hand comes from a stable who doesn't send many here but has a 42% s/r at the course. Although he hasn't won here yet, he did run his second best speed figure over 5f last year & I reckon he's very safe for a place today at least.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  11. #11

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    I’m going to have to do a review of this thread at some point later today because I know there a few lined up for tomorrow but I think like the pLAYtime (& may I say it could prove folly to ignore that one today as well) thread below, that this is one of my better ones. I have to say though that it only came about due to Susan seeking help for the AW, however, it was only a matter of time before I turned my attention to the Flat because like Keith says, now is the time of year when the better horses start making an appearance, today being a fine example:

    4.30 Wolverhampton

    3 c BOSCOBEL
    M Johnston, This Derby entry’s figures suggest he is Listed class, if not better. The sectionals suggest he is about a stone better than he is rated & could be more so with a stronger early pace. Sire (Halling)’s progeny’s average winning distance is 10.4f & he can only get better over further than his maiden winning distance.
    G. North

    3yo top-weight's are always interesting & this is his trainer's choice of 4 entries for this race. I doubt very much though that we'll see any of the evens forecast about this one. A quality little race for this course.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  12. #12

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51

    The story so far....

    Boscobel, Won @ 8/11f but joined on the line for a dead-heat, I think we were robbed if it still holds that we have to halve the odds on such occasions. It’s interesting to note that one of our qualifiers, Challis, was entered up to run in the race after this won by Silkwood, who only won by a neck from a horse whose figures were slightly behind that of the aforementioned, in fact, Challis’s figures very much suggested to me that he would have had a great chance of winning Boscobel’s race & will look forward to seeing him in a handicap.

    Saviours Spirit, 2nd @ 9/2, who I suggested was safe for a place at least got beat by a 12yo. That’s not quite as embarrassing as the 26 members of the West Somerset Pool League who have been beaten by my locals’ landlord’s son (Hi JJ), aged 11, he has an 82% sr. Especially as he is trained by sprint specialist, Dandy Nicholls. Never mind, bring on the summer, bring on the tourists, ‘D’ya wanna play for a fiver?’ :D

    Woodnook, Wins @ 7/4f & this one is interesting because having noted that he may improve for the run, ran the time of the day & was only upped 1lb by the handicapper. I can see this one going in again, no probs!

    Cusoon, 2nd @ 15/8, as predicted was up against it with Mighty (may have to add to list) in the race but I was not impressed with the way he was ridden. Fair enough it was a slow run race but he was being so hard held up, I was almost on the phone to the RSPCA before he was finally unleashed to come from last to 2nd (& blocked in) within the final furlong – there’ll be another day for this one.

    Things seem to be going pretty much as expected but

    I seem to have missed the running of one of G North’s lesser lights, that of Zaville @ South, Feb 8th, after finishing soundly beaten (again) she receives some negative rep, she has ability but needs to be able to dominate, from what I hear. Maybe just that the stable are out of form. In reality though, this is a lower class of animal than those that I like to deal with & I may have to scratch this one.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  13. #13

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    3.50 – Ling, cracking little race with three runners from our little list:

    Qadar, 2 tips, 6/1 fc
    Maltese Falcon, 4 tips, 3/1
    Turn On The Style, 8 tips, 7/4f fc. I like this, a course & distance record breaker last time, getting a stone, from albeit quality types, that aren’t. Basically, his last run suggests his rating should be up there with the top weights & as long as he gets out of the stalls in a similar manner, this should be the race that will warrant his rating getting upped a fair bit. 2.88 on Betfair is the best available odds as I write. Last look 2.7

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  14. #14

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    TURN ON THE STYLE, 8 tips, Wins @ 7/4f on Saturday. I’ve said before on this thread that 7/4 is value about a horse with 8 tips. I know we’re probably due a loser but

    3.25 Lingfield – CHALLIS, 9 tips, 9/4f fc. Trainer has yet to field a winner this year but this looks his best prospect of having one so far. If you want to play safe & Dutch him with something else, you shouldn’t have to look too far, trainer Mark Johnston is knocking out his 3yo debutants with familiar regularity, & at this track, over this sort of distance, so Soldiers Quest could be considered.

    We may not see much of Turn On The Style on the AW from now on, the trainer says he could be a good turf horse. But another to run a fast race on Saturday was PARTY BOSS & along with MIGHTY, who beat our CUSOON, last Saturday, I am including on this list for the time being.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  15. #15

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Cor Blimey! Another winner, what’s going on ‘ere then?

    CHALLIS, Wins @ 11/10f, I don’t think this will affect his h’cap mark too much & could still take one, if he’s not on his way to better things.

    SOLDIER'S QUEST, 2nd @ 2/1 Right, I have to nominate this chappie for immediate inclusion to the list & not just to an AW elite, this horse could go to Nad Al Sheba & land a blow for the Brits (maybe next year) but first, it’s worth mentioning that he fits into a little system, Mdn’s first two being 5l’s clear of the third. Spawned by a classic sire of three year olds for the flat, Rainbow Quest, this is OTF for the whole flat season. His ½ bro, Lend A Hand, who was second in the 2,000 Guineas, won 8 from 20 starts including two Gr3’s & an Italian Gr1. Being by Rainbow Quest though, there is more stamina at play & that’s already showing. His damsire, is also renowned for 3yo’s & I could go on & on…. & all that I’m sure adds a bit of weight to what I’m saying about Challis.

    & hey! I tink I’ve just found a use for what I thought was a useless mountain of old books over there in that cupboard!

    I’m not sure yet but I may have to add the 4.35 winner, Lisathedaddy to the list, she ran the time of the day & covered the same distance as Challis at over 1/10th of a second faster per furlong, which over this sort of distance on the flat, is worth noting.

    Not a lot on today, though I have posted, Rosa De Mi Corazon in the 5.00, on the FAV’s.FC thread & it maybe worth mentioning that I couldn’t help but notice on Saturday that her speed figure gave her a chance of winning Boscobel’s race, this is a much weaker affair.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  16. #16

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    At some point in the near future I’m going to create another thread for the Flat & a few of these should make their way onto it but in the meantime our little list needs a few additions.

    4yo c ASIATIC BOY(ARG) M F De Hock, going for the UAE Derby

    4yo c BILLICH E J O’Neill 83, lost out by a neck in Night Cruise’s 15yo track record breaker, should be able to find a stayer’s race & if we do ever get some firm ground??

    3yo f FOLK(USA) I Mohammed, going for the UAE Oaks, ran the time of the day when beating her elders in the 1,000G’s.

    3yo c MASTERSHIP(IRE) C E Brittain 96, reason to believe he is better than a handicapper.

    4yo g NIGHT CRUISE(IRE) J A Osborne 82, recently broke Ling(AW)'s 16f, fifteen-year-old course record on only 4th career start. Has won 2/4 & improved TS with every run. A must for inclusion.

    5yo h PARTY BOSS C E Brittain 106aw, 93flt, may have made a mistake with this one, he’s just been upped 9lb, will have to see where he goes after Saturday’s fine recording on the timepiece.

    3yo f STORYBOOK(UAE) M A Jarvis 92, 2/2 & did well to deny our Boscobel a clear cut win.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  17. #17

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Not altogether sure what’s going on with this thread but I think we’re on 7/7 positive predictions. One of our list is set to run in Dubai, that’s a long way to go for a loser but one of my passwords is love2lose & right now I’m getting desperate!

    5.00 Nad Al Sheba – Descartes, 7/2f fc. Poorly drawn on first run for over a year when a beaten favourite over CD last time. Every chance he’ll settle better after that, has a better draw, has cheek pieces for the first time & has Frankie riding at near his riding weight, is 4lb better off for a 2l’s beating when he possibly needed the race, top RPR, gotta be worth a $

    If either Descartes or Remaadd should win that one, then I’m sure we could spare a dime for

    6.35 Nad Al Sheba – Quorum, who split the above pair last time & would automatically become interesting from a good draw in what strikes me as a less competitive affair.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  18. #18

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Sorry folks, he's a doubtful starter, so scratch that above post. There's an interesting ting going on in the last at Clonmel though which I have posted on the Irish Racing thread.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  19. #19

    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Mansfield.
    Posts
    8,604
    Rep Power
    88
    Quote Originally Posted by Godspot View Post
    There's an interesting ting going on in the last at Clonmel though which I have posted on the Irish Racing thread.
    It'll be the groundsman with his fork. It was called off hours ago. :)

    It's hard to have a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.


  20. #20

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Didn't say that in the RP though & while there were people viewing, I was just trying to save 'em time.:)

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  21. #21

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    'ere we go, 2,3,4!

    2.30 Ling(AW) 4yo+ (0-99)

    SAVIOURS SPIRIT, is going to struggle at this trip, from this draw & especially in this better company. No Bet.

    3.05 - 4yo+ List’d

    AREYOUTALKINGTOME 2/5f fc Pretty solid & is a qualifier on both other system threads (So Clear & FAV’s.FC) A win is predicted but
    QADAR 7/s fc
    WOODNOOK 16/s fc At a serious disadvantage at the weights but has a 2/4/7 win/plce/run record on the AW & at the forecast odds could well be worth a go for a place.

    3.40 – 4yo+ List’d

    CUSOON 8/1fc
    PARTY BOSS 9/2 fc
    MIGHTY 5/1

    What with last year’s winner & our three listed horses, this is some race! But alas, by Jove! I tink I have the answer! Fingers crossed anyway but

    Party Boss clocked a fast time only last week but is pretty much untried & untested over this trip. Mighty is on a roll but is 9lb worse off for a 2 length beating of CUSOON last time. With a stronger pace pretty much assured, I can actually see this race being set up for the present day record holder for this CD, Cusoon, especially when you consider:

    Cusoon, 2nd @ 15/8, as predicted was up against it with Mighty (may have to add to list) in the race but I was not impressed with the way he was ridden. Fair enough it was a slow run race but he was being so hard held up, I was almost on the phone to the RSPCA before he was finally unleashed to come from last to 2nd (& blocked in) within the final furlong – there’ll be another day for this one.
    One minute I was buzzing more with the prospect of going to London tomorrow than I was about Turn On The Style last week, all of a sudden my grand passion (fav’s ¼, no value)’s are equally divided & I’ve just phoned my pub landlord to tell him & his wife, ‘I’ll be away tomorrow, so I’ll CUSOON!.’ And it’s not often I do that!

    I suppose I should play safe, don't want to mess up my strike rate, so EW.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  22. #22

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    All good things come to an end I suppose & yesterday I posted this thread’s first loser with Areyoutalkingtome, we're now down to a measely 90% accuracy. It wasn’t all bad though, we were only a head away from landing a tidy EW double & we must have found a couple of new inclusions to the list in, King Orchisios(Ire) (for beating all three of our horses in his race) & Blue Bajan(Ire) failing by a short head for doing the same in his; while the winner shaved nearly half a second off his own CD track record.

    5.00 Kempton – PLAYERS PLEASE, 4/6f fc, 3yo top weights can be alright, top weight top speed figure, can be alright & Challis boosted his form recently, so will prove very hard to beat.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  23. #23

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Another winner posted yesterday, making for 10/11 now, though I say it myself, that’s not bad. I’m not altogether certain as to why this thread is doing so well but I think between August last year & now, there must have been a record number of track records broken on the AW for any other previous 6 month period, including another two within the last week or so(make that three with Magic Glade on Saturday as well). Something to do with that & the consistency of the going I presume. But just out of interest I sent off for that free booklet, recently advertised by Brimardon, one of their adverts reads; ‘The time to get involved is now. Most people wont go near the AW, big mistake. We have a 48% strike rate in certain h’caps on the AW.’ They actually want me to pay for something that I can better myself, h’mmm? They also say, ‘It would take you years to find a winning system on the AW.’ As I have said before, I was no great fan of AW racing but since unearthing wholly by accident, this thread, I have to admit to becoming a bit of a convert. I wouldn’t mind some feedback but feel generally ignored on this site, so I doubt there’ll be any of that. Lucky for me, I’m a constant learner, can be a little slow at times (a Virgo trait, so I believe) but I usually get there in the end.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  24. #24

    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    6,629
    Rep Power
    84
    Quote Originally Posted by Godspot View Post
    . I wouldn’t mind some feedback but feel generally ignored on this site, so I doubt there’ll be any of that. .

    I do read these Godspot and I'm sure others do to and this thread in particular is doing great. If I could make a suggestion it would be to make the picks a little clearer, I don't think I'm the only one who gets a little lost reading through your posts :) Maybe at the end of the message just do a little list of the days picks. Just something like Course/Time/Name just so as they stand out.



  25. #25
    wb's Avatar
    wb is offline Win2Win Racing Club Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Éire
    Posts
    7,347
    Rep Power
    80
    I also read these threads GS, and enjoy the analysis. However, I would agree with Matt here. After the write up, you could make the selection a bit clearer by typing something like:

    Bet:
    5:00 Kemp - GS' Selection - Stake: £x.xx

    Tada gan iarracht


  26. #26

    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    1,401
    Rep Power
    47
    Just do a profit/loss after each post Andy and that will get everyones attention. Thanks for that Well Chief PDF, he is certainly better then ever. I know it's been a week since I promised them SRs, I've turned into a lazy git now I've got Bet IE.

    Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ...

    George Carlin


  27. #27

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Cheers folks! Hows about I do it more like the ammendment I have just added to the So Clear thread, suggesting a saver on Kingkohler? Tips/Avice first, then a few reasons...

    Working out a LSP on this thread is giving me a headache, it includes, win, dutch, place & EW selections. Ah! Like you say Mav, after each post, I should be able to manage that.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  28. #28

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Nad Al Sheba 3.45 ASIATIC BOY, Stepping up in trip but wasn’t stopping last time, a drop in class here & has his regular jockey back on board. Stable are flying & boast by far the best recent form from anything else in the race. He should actually be a qualifier on the So Clear, thread but I’m not altogether sure about Dubai qualifiers, as yet.

    Ling 5.00 Marbaa, EW looks interesting. His two placed efforts on the AW have been within his last three runs over CD & last time was after an almost 7 week lay-off, so could strip fitter today. Last time also though was behind our listed Challis & Soldiers Quest & I was thinking that there may well be some well handicapped horses behind. Having since seen that Ladbrokes are offering 20/1, well, I'm into it.... So:

    3.45, Nad Al Sheba, ASIATIC BOY, WIN
    5.00, Ling(AW) Marbaa, EW

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  29. #29

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    Knew I shouldn’t have strayed from the list with that Marbaa letting us down. Asiatic Boy won though @ 8/11f leaving the sr at 11 from 13. He looks well on course for his target of the UAE Derby over CD in a fortnights time.

    Wolves 1.40, SOLDIER’S QUEST, 4/7fc, 13/13 tips, in a race where trainer has won with 3 out of 4 previous runners, so a solid WIN selection.

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


  30. #30

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somersetshire
    Posts
    4,275
    Rep Power
    51
    What a difference a day makes! Can’t help feeling life is a perpetual wind up sometimes but I think we may be getting our money back on Marbaa(Ire) after all. 5l’s in front of Marbaa(Ire) last time, Soldiers Quest won today by 11l’s. The 7½ l’s 4th that day, Lemonette(USA), won the very next race, suggesting I may have been right about Marbaa(Ire) being well handicapped – just over a shorter trip.

    I've updated the list - this should see us through till the Flat season proper starts.

    At $1 a pt win & place this thread returns $28.30 for $17 for all suggestions so far, with a 70% sr & 61% ROI

    3 f ABANDON Haggas W a well bred filly but trainer W Haggas has a poor record with first timers on the AW, however once they've had a run, his 3yo's plus have a 30+% sr next time in AW maidens.

    4 ? AREYOUTALKINGTOME Cyzer C 115, Disappointed latest & one of only two losing suggestions so far.

    4 c ASIATIC BOY(ARG) Hock M F de Wins 8/11f & well on course for his target, the UAE Derby.

    BAHAR SHUMAAL Brittain C E

    4 c BILLICH O’Neill E J 83, lost out by a neck in Night Cruise’s 15yo track record breaker, should be able to find a stayer’s race & if we do ever get some firm ground??

    5 g BLUE BAJAN(IRE) Turnell A 103, Would have had Cusoon’s course record in another couple of strides & could reverse form in the Winter Derby!

    3 c BOSCOBEL Johnston M Ddht’s @ 8/11f. This Derby entry’s figures suggest he is Listed class, if not better. The sectionals suggest he is about a stone better than he is rated & could be more so with a stronger early pace. Sire (Halling)’s progeny’s average winning distance is 10.4f & he can only get better over further than his maiden winning distance. G North

    3 c CHALLIS Noseda J 77, Wins @ 11/10f 10f Ling(AW), 2nd & 4th gone in since.

    5 g CUSOON Moore G L Wins 11/2 fr 8/s when beating his own course record & ran 2nd when I suggested a ‘dutch with Mighty.

    3 f DALVINA Dunlop Ed According to sectional times of her mdn win at Lingfield can be rated at least 7lb better & that is an underestimate. She’s almost certainly Listed class, too, at least. G North

    DESCARTES Suroor S bin Ling(AW) 12f Course record holder

    ETLAAM

    3 f FOLK(USA) Mohammed I going for the UAE Oaks, ran the time of the day when beating her elders in the 1,000G’s.

    6 g GENTLEMAN’S DEAL Easterby M W Kempton(AW) 8f course record holder. & now in contention for AW Horse Of The Year & is fancied for Lingfield’s Winter Derby.

    4 g HASSAD Haggas W Lightly raced, progressive 3yo, did hold a Crse Rec @ Kempton for a week or so but the sectionals he recorded through the race suggest he is well in advance of any rating he can be allotted by traditional h’capping methods (don’t tell Godspot, he may become an AW convert). Hassaad will probably stay 10f but will likely prove best at around a mile for the time being & could develop into a Lincoln contender.

    4 g KING ORCHISIOS(IRE) Ryan K A 101, Included after last week’s fast time win over three of our list, is himself Wolv(AW) 5f Course record holder.

    5 m LISATHEDADDY Powell B G 83, Lightly raced mare who clocked a faster time than Challis, worthy of inclusion on that.

    8 g MAGIC GLADE Dascombe T 87, New course record holder for 5f at Ling(AW), should be able to win again.

    3 c MASTERSHIP(IRE) Brittain C E 96, reason to believe he is better than a handicapper.

    4 c MIGHTY Chapple-Hyam J 100, Maybe 12f to suit after last week’s 3rd behind Cusoon.

    4 g NIGHT CRUISE(IRE) Osborne J A 82, recently broke Ling(AW)'s 16f, fifteen-year-old course record on only 4th career start. Has won 2/4 & improved TS with every run. A must for inclusion.

    5 h PARTY BOSS Brittain C E 106aw, 93flt, may have made a mistake with this one, he’s just been upped 9lb, will have to see where he goes after Saturday’s fine recording on the timepiece. Ran unplaced (as expected) over new trip behind Cusoon last week.

    3 c PLAYERS PLEASE(USA) Johnston M Wins @ 4/7f, 11f Kemp, clocked time of the day & Eased!

    5 g QADAR(IRE) Littmoden N P 100, Listed race placed last week @ 10/s but no bet suggested & could be hard to place in handicaps, we’ll just have have to see where he turns. Ling(AW) 6f Course record holder!

    3 f RAINBOW PROMISES(USA) Meehan B Won a mdn @ Lingfield in October & attracted ante-post support for 1,000 Guineas (now 14/1). Her sectionals can be translated into a figure in excess of 105, which suggest she is Listed class already. She is by a top American dirt horse at up to 10f, Came Home & it remains to be seen how she will fare with turf but she’ll have no trouble staying a mile. G NorthLing(AW) 2yo 6f Course record holder.

    6 g SAVIOURS SPIRIT Mills T G 87, Kempton(AW) 6f Course record holder. Ran unplaced over wrong trip, above class & no bet was suggested. Placed 9/2 when EW was.

    3 c SOLDIERS QUEST Johnston M Wins 1/4f, following up his promising debut behind Challis.

    3 f STORYBOOK(UAE) Jarvis M A 82, 2/2 & did well to deny our Boscobel a clear cut win.

    5 g TURN ON THE STYLE Balding J 93, Wins 7/4f but course record over 5f @ Ling(AW) just been pipped by Magic Glade.

    4 f WOODNOOK Toller J A R 95, Wins 7/4f & a hd 2nd @ 10/1 fr 12/s, last to 2nd inside final furlong latest, should be up to winning in Listed Class.

    5 m ZAVILLE O’Reilly J she receives some negative rep, she has ability but needs to be able to dominate, from what I hear. Maybe just that the stable are out of form. In reality though, this is a lower class of animal than those that I like to deal with & I may have to scratch this one.


    From now on I'll try & keep running P/L, now I can get back to the sticks!

    PS: GS can now be followed on Twitter as @themastarata


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Nick Mordin's Sectional Times
    By Godspot in forum Horses To Follow & Horseracing Hall of Fame
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 17th March 2013, 04:31
  2. Speed ratings and sectional timing
    By wb in forum Horse Racing Discussion, Daily Waffle, Q&A
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10th August 2008, 09:07

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Free Tips | Betting Advice | UK Horse Racing Tips | Free Bets | Staking Advice | Horse Racing Systems | Horse Racing Lays | Laying System | UK Horse Racing Tips | lay betting