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    Argh!

    The Racing Post have a new website in beta phase which means I'm going to need to do some serious updates to Auto-Sys before it goes fully live



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    Another new site!!! Are we talking the whole site, or the HTML racecards?

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    A whole new site with a new domain name and new structure

    I haven't got as far as comparing the HTML against the old site because it's still in beta



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    Oh dear

    It's very sllloooooowww loading the cards, and has locked up my browser twice. Looks like it using PHP, Ajax, Flash, and a few other gizmo's.

    The racecards have no page address!!! Although I should be able to pull the basic scripting off the server and see them, I done that with the logon for the present site. I'll have a piddle about o Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    The racecards have no page address!!!
    Oh now that would be BAD for Auto-Sys



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    Quote Originally Posted by mathare View Post
    Oh now that would be BAD for Auto-Sys
    It's worse than that Mat....it's using Ajax with Javascript, and all the data is cached in an array, so no racecard code at all. :splapme

    Looks 99.9% at the moment you'll have to switch to the Sporting Life, or something.

    As for the little boxes with each runner, I can only just see the things on my 1900x1400 screen, never mind click them!!!

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    I can't use the Sporting Life code, it's really not conducive to what Auto-Sys does



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    Most other sites list all the races on seperate pages.

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    What else is there apart from Sporting Life and Racing Post?

    There's Turftrax but I never really got on with their cards



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    Quote Originally Posted by mathare View Post
    What else is there apart from Sporting Life and Racing Post?
    have you tried attheraces.com ?

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    gg.com list them but don't know if the format's any good for what you need Mat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattw07 View Post
    have you tried attheraces.com ?
    Quote Originally Posted by MattR View Post
    gg.com list them but don't know if the format's any good for what you need Mat.
    Both list the races on seperate pages I think., although GG is OK, as they update the result on the same page, and I use their results page, RP one annoys me, and SL keeps crashing.

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    The only full page is the SL, just been through all the ones I know. Unless I can find a way to parse the array.

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    Yeah I got an email about this a few weeks back. The really bad things is that they are going to charge for certain functionality on the site. I went and had a look at the beta today and it looks like Forecast prices might be part of what you get when you pay...not cool.

    On that note I checked out SportingLife fellas and I noticed they had some different forecast prices. I'm wondering how this will affect those systems that use forecast price as a factor? If the stats/previous results are based on RP and SL has different forecast than wouldnt it change the results?



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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybadger View Post
    Yeah I got an email about this a few weeks back. The really bad things is that they are going to charge for certain functionality on the site. I went and had a look at the beta today and it looks like Forecast prices might be part of what you get when you pay...not cool.

    On that note I checked out SportingLife fellas and I noticed they had some different forecast prices. I'm wondering how this will affect those systems that use forecast price as a factor? If the stats/previous results are based on RP and SL has different forecast than wouldnt it change the results?

    Thats what I was also thinking



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    Sporting Life F/c odds are pants, you would have to use Oddschecker, or a similar excellent service (just to keep BBC viewers happy!!!!!)

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    Hey,

    I too have had a quick look at the new racingpost site and I don't think there is much doom and gloom. It will take me a little bit of time to figure out all of the HTTP-GET requests but its looking like it might actually make my life much, much easier.

    As an example, have a look at these urls (after you've logged in to racingpost.com of course):
    - http://www.racingpost.com/horses/car...11-26&type=sc_
    - http://www.racingpost.com/horses/car...ate=2008-11-26
    - http://www.racingpost.com/horses/qui...race_id=102984

    You can get the runners and B/F with little effort... and the format is v.nice to work with.

    Yes, there may be a few more requests to the server required but, really, firing off another request makes little difference (depending on your scraping solution I guess).

    I'm sure with a little bit more research I will have a complete working solution. I already use rp raceIds so my data model remains unchanged.. probably a day's work for me to make the switch to the new site.

    My only fear is that certain services (e.g. B/F) will be a paid member's service in the nearing future... something I would like to keep well away from.



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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybadger View Post
    Yeah I got an email about this a few weeks back. The really bad things is that they are going to charge for certain functionality on the site. I went and had a look at the beta today and it looks like Forecast prices might be part of what you get when you pay...not cool.
    From http://www.racingpost.com/help/help_centre.sd

    "All of the beta version of racingpost.com is currently free, but a subscription will be introduced for some premium content.

    More details of subscriptions will be available soon but in the meantime, you can view all content."

    :(



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