Win2Win Racing System Pack 1

[Win2Win]

At long last I hear some of you say

Well I haven't actually released any systems for 2-3 years and I am constantly being asked for them. The reason for the delay in releasing anything to the public is that during 2008-10 the racing authorities were constantly fiddling with the racing rules and so it was a volatile time in some areas of racing. That time has now passed.

You can now get yourself a copy of this ebook containing four systems. One Lay and three Win systems, covering the AW, NH and Flat racing in the UK and Ireland.

For fulls details, downloadable results, and ordering information please visit System Pack 1

[huckabuck]

keith,the ebook is not in my membership page when i login,trying to buy it.i have the 3 membership types and every thing else that i have brought come up.

[Win2Win]

I'll have a look under the bonnet for you

[Win2Win]

Should be working now ..... I forgot to tick a box ... I'll have myself flogged

[huckabuck]

thanx keith,just ordered it

[Win2Win]

Thanks. Any questions about it, just ask

[barneymather]

Should be working now ..... I forgot to tick a box ... I'll have myself flogged

There's no point in having yourself flogged, not if you're going to enjoy it.

The price is a bargain I have to say, and it's well seen you're not an overly money-conscious Scot (like me). I have to wear a scarf all year round to cover the dozens of marks on my neck caused by trying to grap 1p pieces before they hit the pavement. Why do you take penny pieces out so often, you may ask. Well, you can't always refuse old tramps who ask for spare cash for a cup of tea.

But I do wish the racing powers-that-be would stop tinkering with things. If they must fiddle about, let them do it in the privacy of their own home where they won't frighten the horses (or punters).

[Win2Win]

If they must fiddle about, let them do it in the privacy of their own home where they won't frighten the horses (or punters).

[bryn]

Hi Keith
May I ask how long does it take to find the selections on the lay system and if they can be selected the night before.
Thanks.

[Win2Win]

You may

You can cross most races out straight away using the runners rule, the other rules you soon learn and can do at a quick glance after a week or two. The only fiddly one maybe the horse sex depending on what racecards your using. Sporting Life/Racing Post you have to click on the horse, but if you've done the other rules first you only have a few to click anyway

You just keep the list till when you're putting the bets on and then use the price rule.

Just let me know if you need any more

[barneymather]

Does the Fav Tracks system cover both Flat and NH?

[Win2Win]

Does the Fav Tracks system cover both Flat and NH?

Yes

[softie]

Hi Keith

Lay system - presumably you are happy with fillies / mares only races as they are not filtered, and do you have an opinion about using forecast prices from the Attheraces website?

Cheers

[Win2Win]

Hi Keith

Lay system - presumably you are happy with fillies / mares only races as they are not filtered

Yep, those races are OK

and do you have an opinion about using forecast prices from the Attheraces website?

Cheers

If you are going to use them, stick to it daily. They are pretty accurate for targetting the kind of horse the system is after

[softie]

Thanks for those replies Keith, one more please - if combining these system lays with Turbo lays, to give plenty of volume, would you personally use an increased betting bank ie over the 50 point mi.n i think you normally suggest?

[Win2Win]

I wouldn't leverage Lay banks at all so you would have to increase the overall bank size.

[jackster109]

Hi Keith

I've bought the system pack and I have a few questions about the Lay system.

As I can't always guarentee that I will be in front of a computer before racing starts, do you advise placing the bets the night before?

If so what would you advise to use for the betting forecast's, the Racing Post?

If you advise against placing the bets the night before, should I just concentrate on the bets that I can only actually place just before the off?

Cheers

Jackster109

[Win2Win]

If you have to bet the night before use Betfair SP . This can cause a bit of hit'n'miss with the cut-off, but just stay consistent with what you decide to do. You could play it safe and use 10.0, or stick with what the rules say.

[jackster109]

Thanks, should I use the SP guides as a betting forecast or bookmakers odds the night before?

Would it be okay to use this method for bets I know I can't get on the day of racing and revert to the original style for bets I can place before the off or wouldn't that be consisent enough and should always do them the night before to matain a level of consistency?

Cheers (Last question's I promise! )

[Win2Win]

If you're using Betfair SP it doesn't matter when you place the bet

The best F/c odds is with the Racing Post

[jackster109]

Hi Kieth

Another question regarding laying using the betfair SP option. Is there a fixed liabilty to work with when laying this way?

I was thinking of setting the max odds to the cut-off price and setting the liabilty to ((max odds * stake)-stake).

This would produce more profit for lower odd lays but my bank would only allow me to lay a few qualifiers due to the overall liabilty.

How would you do it?

Thanks

[Win2Win]

For the minimum you'd have to set an average liabilty of say £25 to £2 stakes, and use that as the Max. Not so bad as long as you don't hit a 12.0 on the first race

[biyax]

just got it and my first impression is so so... the profit of graphicis amazing...


LAY System – AW Fillies – SR 84
Super great system for layer punters


Win System - Mark Johnston – SR 18
This is not system.. This is Statistical information (it is free on many website)


Win System - Mahmood Al Zarooni – SR 22
This is not system.. This is Statistical information (it is free on many website)


Win System - Fav Tracks – SR 47
This is filtering for very short priced favorite

£30 is too expensive for this pack..

Sorry Keith, this is my option.. I can give such as system to everyone as free charge.

Regards.

[Win2Win]

A SYSTEM is STATISTCAL INFORMATION!!

The statistical information for most systems is available on the internet, or for a small charge, otherwise you can access it it via Raceform, Proform, etc but then you have to spend days/weeks researching 1000's of combinations to pick up proven patterns, and these systems have been used with my own hard earned cash and proven themselves live before I offered them for sale. Therefore saving the buyer countless days of research, lost cash on systems that look like they work but don't as they've been backfitted as they have no idea how not to fall into that trap, and I make sure I supply a good spread of strike rates.

It's called the Fav Tracks systems as it concentrates on Favs, and with a strike rate of 47% it's obvious the odds average will be low. It still has an ROI% (return on investment) over 10%, that's 9% more than the bookies make

[markrob]

Just a couple of questions re the lay system. 1) Does your results log include fillies only races? 2) If I find the selections the night before racing and the selection is always over 11.5 on the day is it okay to keep the price in running? Many thanks.....

[Win2Win]

Just a couple of questions re the lay system. 1) Does your results log include fillies only races? 2) If I find the selections the night before racing and the selection is always over 11.5 on the day is it okay to keep the price in running? Many thanks.....

Sorry about the delay with this, I'm technically on my honeymoon

The results contain ALL the horses that have qualified.

NEVER EVER go in-running with any bets, that is a totally different way of gambling, is highly volatile and takes a lot of experience to profit from.

[jasper]

Are the running for profit and fav track system selections given as system banker bets?

[Win2Win]

Are the running for profit and fav track system selections given as system banker bets?

No, they are completely different systems, but as with all systems, you will get the same selections from time to time.

[barneymather]

Does Fav Tracks include NH Flat races?

[Win2Win]

It certainly does