Partial lottery wheel

[tipp]

Hello
Does anybody know where to find or how to create v=?,k=6,t=3,m=4.Partial Wheel for the Lotto, I would imagine there must be a formula or a software program. I have posted here as I think they use them for casino's also. Hope you can help.

Thank's
Tipp

[eruptive plot]

dont mean to put you off,but check this out http://www.lotterymanual.com/PAGE2.htm?source=google

[presto]

i would just stay well clear of the lottery - it really is a mug's game.
just look at the odd's (at a glance) as an accumulator bet.

6/49
5/48
4/47
3/46
2/45
1/44

SO:

8.16 X 9.6 X 11.75 X 15.3 X 22.5 X 44 = 13,942,026 / 1
so to win the jackpot the odd's are roughly 14 million to 1. i don't know how big the lottery jpot is - around £3 mill at a guess, so 14mill/1 to win £3 mill is pretty cack - and if there is more than 1 winner then :splapme

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[TheOldhamWhisper]

And I'd also steer clear of any Lottery Manuals that claim they can increase your chances of winning! The odds are the same for any 6 numbers and there is no manual, system or other device that can change that fact!

[presto]

i just looked at the manual too - what a joke:

hot numbers
40% advantage
random numbers are bad (they have the same chance as any other).
lazy picks

[bigcumba]

Remember when the lottery first started and there were no end of software programs around to 'help' you find that winning line.... some of them even had the cheek to charge you for the software and I'm sure I even saw one boxed version in the old Electronics Boutique shops. The lottery is definitely not my idea of even a fun bet, though my wife does a couple of quid a week on it with her mum.... still if we do win the big one I won't be complaining!

[tipp]

Thanks Eruptive Plot
In theory they may be correct, In practice they are wrong, Once you have
three numbers its a bit like holding a pair of aces in poker and trying to make a hand with a ten card flop instead of three card flop. If you have a row of six numbers with three in, you get the same three in multiple rows and many
chances to make one a four number or more. It is 57-1 aganst getting three
numbers, it makes sense to exploit having achieved that, by having as many other numbers to try to get more, as is financially practicle. the alternative
is random rows, which of course might have a winning row among them,
but if a row has the first three in it and no more,you start your next row from zero and have to find three more to yet again have only three solitary numbers to make your fortune. If the the odds of a jackpot line are nearly
14,000,000 to one, then what are the remaining odds of getting three more
from the remaining 46 numbers.
However all this is not achieving my objective.

Thanks for your input.

Be lucky
Tipp

[tipp]

Hello Whisper
So if I perm any 6 from seven, seven rows effectivly do I not then have
the situation = any 6 from 49 but from 7 numbers rather than 6. and if 3 come up will I not have them several times.
Best Wishes Tipp.

[tipp]

Hey ,Presto
Who said anything about manuals,or winning millions, My interest in the lottery is multiple threes and fours. Hence my original request.

Cheers Tipp

[presto]

i was just commenting on the manual in the link (the 2nd post). - and what tosh they are trying to flog for $20.

instead of looking at a lottery system be it singles, multiples etc, that are a 'guaranteed loss' whatever way you look at them, wouldn't it be more productive to look at something with a 'skill' element, such as footy / horse racing or whatever. to look foe the big payoff with a small bet on larged price accie bet.

[tipp]

Hi Guys and Girls
Heres a thought, When I go to the lottery selling shop there are a few
people buying tickets,but when there is a roll over there are queues of them.
What are they saying ?
I don't want three million but I wouldn't mind seven million.
Tipp,

[vegyjones]

What are they saying ?

We don't know!

It's unlikely any of us were in your particular lottery selling shop at the time

That reminds me, I must get down to the shop and buy myself a lottery!
Someone should tell Richard Branson they're that easy to buy!

[wb]

This reminds me of an argument I had with my wife when I picked my lotto numbers as: 1,2,3,4,5,6 & 7

She could not understand that my particular combination had exactly the same chance as her combination.

[presto]

Hi Guys and Girls
Heres a thought, When I go to the lottery selling shop there are a few
people buying tickets,but when there is a roll over there are queues of them.
What are they saying ?
I don't want three million but I wouldn't mind seven million.
Tipp,

GREED

[vegyjones]

Are you allowed to pick seven numbers!

That's kind of cheating!

No wonder she didn't understand that your seven had the same chance as her six! :D

[wb]

Are you allowed to pick seven numbers!

That's kind of cheating!

No wonder she didn't understand that your seven had the same chance as her six! :D

Mabey it was six. Have not done the lottery in ages.

[vegyjones]

You don't back Rangers to win then

(Note to self - Do not start Scottish football wars on the forum!!)

[tipp]

Bums and willies veggie

[vegyjones]

Buns and Wellies Teep

[bigcumba]

This reminds me of an argument I had with my wife when I picked my lotto numbers as: 1,2,3,4,5,6 & 7

the main problem with that sort of combination is that there are likely to be a few dozen folk out there, all doing the same thing, thinking no one else will be that clever, and would get a fright when the jackpot came up split 25 ways! :)

[wb]

the main problem with that sort of combination is that there are likely to be a few dozen folk out there, all doing the same thing, thinking no one else will be that clever, and would get a fright when the jackpot came up split 25 ways! :)

Yeah. I think I just did it to get on her nerves though.

[tipp]

Bigcumber

Check that perm on those exact back numbers you will be surprised.Tipp

[bigcumba]

Bigcumber

Check that perm on those exact back numbers you will be surprised.Tipp

I imagine you're right on that Tipp... I'd be more inclined though to go for the other end of the numbers though - from 49 down, probably less folk trying that one. Also the numbers from 32 up don't get used by folk doing birthdays unless they use years rather than days, so it's 'supposed' to be a better idea to include more of those.

[tipp]

Hi again Big cumber
I share your reasoning, I do a wheel on the first 8 numbers and another on the last 8 with good results. the trouble is now so many people also share the
same reasoning about the aniversary dates it has cancelled its self out now.
Tipp

[tipp]

Bigcumber, Believe in big J and the afterlife, It's a nailed on certainty.

[mathare]

Believe in big J

I know a few people on here believe in a big J

[TheOldhamWhisper]

This reminds me of an argument I had with my wife when I picked my lotto numbers as: 1,2,3,4,5,6 & 7

The numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6 are played every week by some 42,000 people who all think they will be multi-millionaires when their numbers come up

So if I perm any 6 from seven, seven rows effectivly do I not then have
the situation = any 6 from 49 but from 7 numbers rather than 6. and if 3 come up will I not have them several times

I actually used to play this myself and indeed you do get bigger payoffs. I won £595 and £386 on the two occasions that I hit 4 numbers and several times I hit 3 numbers for £40 - but you have to also bear in mind that it was costing me £7 per week to play. My chances of winning the jackpot? Exactly the same as anyone else playing 7 lines (whether they are permutations or random numbers).

If you really want to play the lottery, at least play the Irish lottery in a bookies and get 'true odds'.

[eruptive plot]

If you really want to play the lottery, at least play the Irish lottery in a bookies and get 'true odds'.

a bookie that gives "true odds"
thats a new one tow.
i know what your trying to say, "BETTER value than camelot"

[tipp]

Hello Oldham Whisper
Shall we have a little comparision with what you get for your quid between the honest Bookie and the lottery.

For your pound on the Irish Lottey you have to find 3 winning numbers to
win about £450 .

On Lotto you get approximately (or used to when it started) this for a quid


20 X £0.0011p trebles with each number paying 20/1 3 winning numbers = £10.

15 X £0.0011p fourfolds with each number paying 20/1, 4 winning numbers =
£213.

6 X £0.0011p fivefolds with each number paying 20/1. 5 winning numbers =
£4492-00.

6 X £0.0022p fivefolds with bonus ball with each number paying 20/1 =
£197262.00.

1 X £0.10p sixfold with each number paying 20/1 =£8,576,612.00

Total stakes approx £0-30p

Commissions and other expenses £0-20p

Good Causes £0-50p

= £1-00


Now, Oldham Whisper, How many people do (YOU) know who have won over
one million on multiple bets down the honest Bookie, Or half a million even
or maybe one hundred grand, no , how about 50k or 1k. Not many I would
Guess . I dont know what the top limits are at the Bookies these days but the best used to be £500,000. The bookie on the corner by me has a limit of 10k, Well there are hundreds of lottery millionaires.In Folly Road in Mildenhall
there are known to be four people who have seperatly won over a million. I bet they are glad they never took heed of your advice.
It is a mugs bet but thousnds of people win every week with no skill or expertise whatsoever.

Be Lucky
Tipp

[Win2Win]

Now, Oldham Whisper, How many people do (YOU) know who have won over
one million on multiple bets down the honest Bookie, Or half a million even
or maybe one hundred grand, no , how about 50k or 1k. Not many I would
Guess

Quite a large number actually. 1K is easy when you know the folk I do, 10K are also common (£250 stakes hit it easily), 50K not uncommon (these are the big players so Mr Bookie doesn't shout about these win). 100K I know of 3. 250K I'm aware of 2 this year, but I don't know them.....£1M...bookies only increased there limits this year.

The lottery is a mugs bet & a rip-off......70% take out That make the Tote look like an angel with 20%-30% take=out.

I know of no one who has won over £5000 on the lottery since it started, and that is 1000's of people, a good lot of people who have knocked up over £1,000 on the Irish lottery for around £1.

The odds of 14,000,000+ are way against you in the Lotto, with multiple bets at least the person selects the odds they want.

By the way, it is much, much easier winning £1M on the Scoop6 than the Lotto, and more fun as the stake lasts for 3 hours....rather than a few seconds on flying balls!!